Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
All possible, but not a shred of evidence. A lot of these are simply businesses owned by past members or family of former Outfit members.


An important distinction.

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They controlled all that through the theater unions. I don't think there are any theater unions left. If there are, Chicago is certainly not controlling them, LOL.


Interestingly, in 2003, several members of Projectionist Union Local 110, which had past ties to the Outfit, were indicted for conspiracy and arson involving 20 incidents in movie theaters in 10 states related to labor contract disputes. However, the prosecutor said the indictment did not involve organized crime allegations.

Originally Posted By: Antonio
Wait so the Chicago Mob's actual size is only to the nearest ten, practically 30 members and 100 associates? was it always a small family because I thought that even today it would have more membership, I read somewhere in terms of size only the Gambino's and Genovese's matched them. Obviously that must have been exaggeration.


Correct. With 25-30 made members and a little over 100 associates, the Outfit has a total manpower of about 150. By comparison, the smallest New York family (the Colombos) have around 100 made members and an estimated 500 associates - 6 times the size of the Outfit. In other words, the modern day Outfit is more comparable to the sizes of the families in New England, New Jersey, and Philadelphia than any of the NY families.

Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Cicero
Elmwood
Chinatown
Grand Ave
those are the main ones
could be smaller one like chicago heights, melrose, ect


Around the time of the Family Secrets case in 2005, the Outfit was said to have the four crews you listed above - Elmwood, Grand Avenue, Cicero, and 26th Street. However, in 2011 the FBI said the Outfit was down to 2 or 3 crews.

Originally Posted By: johnnynonos
Yeah but explain how he gets three or four casinos. Being a felon no less.


I may be wrong but I'm not sure where these claims of "three or four casinos" comes from. As far as I know, Posner operates the Excelsior casino, which is located within the Holiday Inn Resort. The casino was formerly known as the Grand Holiday Casino when Posner purchased it in the late 1990's.


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