Nope doesn't work

Most likely still shut off from his days when he was BANNED!

I've gotten PM's from other people so I'm not sure what the problem is. And, despite what EastHarlemItal says, I was never banned. I was temporarily suspended. But that was only for a week or so a long time ago. I chose not to post for quite a while after that until recently.

Anyway, what's your question?

Suspended? Why? Because again you were playing the know it all! The guy with all the answers who didn't like another opinion!

Nothing of the sort, as much as you may wish that were the case.

The Utah thing was sarcasim i thought it was funny that you repetedly state that your are quoteing law enforcement and have no personal contact and that whatever you post we can find for ourselves on the internet people still find a way to bring Utah up, when my personal experince in was a great place to get away from the city. I guess im just not as funny as i had thought. I meant no disrespect by it. LOL

No need to wish!

You like rats, go read George Barone's testimony and see who he said the boss was!

I would never come on an internet forum and say so and so told me this or that. Why? Because that's anecdotal and nobody has any obligation to believe me because they don't know who I am and have no way of verifying if I'm telling the truth.

I quote sources, be they law enforcement, mob experts, former mafiosi, etc. by posting what they have said; including posting a link if available. That way, everyone can see for themselves what they said and they know it's not me simply making stuff up.

You talk about being able to find for yourself these things on the internet but the people who I usually get in debates with don't do this very thing. They don't do the research. They pretend like they do. They claim they do. But it's obvious they haven't. They're content to talk out of their asses.

I like good sources of information. That I don't think you're one of them really hurts your feelings.

Why don't you post what Barone apparently said for all of us to see? Again, quit alluding to things and post what you have or shut up.

Oh what the heck, I'll do it for you...


In 1985, as Anthony "Fat Tony" Salerno was indicted as head of the family, Gigante already had taken over from the aging Philip "Benny Squint" Lombardo.

"I know that Gigante was the boss," Genovese soldier George Barone recently testified. "Tony Salerno was never the boss, and Tony Salerno went to jail and died."

http://articles.latimes.com/2003/mar/23/news/adna-thechin23/2

You get very upset! Is that because your convinced i knkw what im talking about, Research? Research this, got the clip hanging on my wall, New York Times article: April 30th 1988, Mob Mole says Orginized Crime Runs City Construction. Nitice the 1988 part. Its two years after Fish tells his bullshit story, notice who he says the boss is AFTER he was TOSSED out of the program! Research that then talk to me!

Like I said you listen to Rats

Here's the article you're obviously talking about for all to see (link below).

If you look closely, Cafaro doesn't say Salerno was the boss. The author of the article calls Salerno the boss.

Mr. Cafaro, a slight, balding man from the Bronx, has said he has been involved with organized crime since 1958. In 1986, Mr. Cafaro and the boss of the Genovese family, Anthony (Fat Tony) Salerno, were indicted in New York on charges that included racketeering, extortion, plotting murders, gambling and conspiracy.

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/04/30/nyregion/mob-role-in-new-york-construction-depicted.html


You can go read Cafaro's entire testimony in the 1988 report "25 Years After Valachi." I've posted the link here before. He clearly states Gigante was the boss and Salerno wasn't.

In just a few posts, I've proved you wrong about both Barone's statement and Cafaro's statement. Face it, buddy, you've got nothing.

Wait, you were the one who told me to go see what Barone said. Once I showed you he contradicted what you said, now he's a rat that should be ignored.

I would never come on an internet forum and say so and so told me this or that. Why? Because that's anecdotal and nobody has any obligation to believe me because they don't know who I am and have no way of verifying if I'm telling the truth.

I quote sources, be they law enforcement, mob experts, former mafiosi, etc. by posting what they have said; including posting a link if available. That way, everyone can see for themselves what they said and they know it's not me simply making stuff up.


Thats what i was saying it was not at all a jab at you, that's what i was saying its nice to be able to varify info but then again like you said most people wont let facts or truth get in the way of a good internet convo. LOL

They all turn rat for one reason or another. That doesn't excuse you for ignoring anything they say when it contradicts your bullshit opinion.

But that's it, isn't it? No matter how much evidence I throw in your face, you won't admit you're wrong. Talk about ego.

Ivy you and your knkw it all bullshit have driven more people away from this place, your a little insecure man. Every family you have down like your a member! Ive got several PM's since we have started stating how much of an asshole, know it all you are!

First, learn how to use the quote function correctly.

Second, as I said, nowhere in that article does Cafaro state Salerno was the boss. The author does. Cafaro had nothing to do with that article other than some of his statements being quoted. But none of his direct statements say Salerno was the boss. That's you reading into it what you want. Your reading comprehension sucks.

Who have I driven away? Who has PM'd you? Do they really exist? And if so, are they so scared that they have to bash me behind the scenes? Come out, come out whoever you are!

Notice what I said before. The facts are on my side, you know it, so you (and others like you) turn the argument personal.

Quote function! Your a joke!

Show me where Fish refutes this! Were talking '88 now. My comprehention is just fine. I pay more.in taxes a year than you make, dont worry about my grammer. I am purely a numbers guy!

You've insulted me several times. Your egotistical responses let alone out many on the defensive.

Now that we've fast forwarded after '88 Fish backs off his bullshit story and you can't handle it so you jump on comprehension!

You don't think there was an agenda with everyone saying "Chin was boss" after Tony was in the can and dead? They still needed to get Chin. It kept it alive.

My New Years resolution is to Ignore you!

Which is good, that way I don't have to give up drinking!

I already have...


VINCENT CAFARO declares, pursuant to the provisions of 28 U.S.C. § 1746, as follows:
I was "straightened out" as a made member of the Genovese Organized Crime Family in approximately 1974. Among members and associates of La Cosa Nostra, I was generally known by the nickname "Fish." Until 1986, I was Anthony "Fat Tony" Salerno's right-hand man. A photograph of Salerno and me outside the Palma Boys Social Club in East Harlem is attached as Exhibit A. After he suffered a stroke in 1981, Salerno functioned as the "figurehead" Boss of the Genovese Family, while Vincent "Chin" Gigante took over from Salerno as the "behind the scenes" Boss. However, Salerno retained control over the Genovese Family's rackets in the construction industry.


You can read Cafaro's entire 1988 testimony at the link below. It starts on page 221.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/125163NCJRS.pdf

Your coming off as a bipolar manaic what does 1988 and your tax braket have to do what Fish Carfaro said.

The only way a dolt like you earns any money is with an organ grinder monkey or stomping on grapes for cheap wine.

Who are you? Seriously. Read my entire response before sounding like another jerk off like your boy.

He did read your post. And he noticed, like I have, that you try to change or confuse the subject because you don't want to stick to the facts.

I pour concrete and lay block ALL day! You push around teen avers who steal from 7-11 and that makes to a street guy!