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Garbage
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01/16/13 11:50 AM
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Re: Garbage
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01/16/13 02:22 PM
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Re: Garbage
[Re: pizzaboy]
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01/16/13 02:30 PM
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No bosses or high ranking members?
Hmm. Just speculation, but that leads me to believe that the investigation is ongoing, or why would the Feds bother with the dog and pony show?
The Feds don't want these guys near garbage anymore. Not that you're gonna keep them out entirely, but they're not remotely as involved as they used to be. If the Feds think they're making inroads again, you can bet the other shoe is gonna drop on this one. So when is the fishing trip with George costanza ?
Random Poster:"I'm sorry I didn't go to an Ivy-league school like you"
"Ah I actually I didn't. It's a nickname the feds gave the Genovese Family."
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Re: Garbage
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01/16/13 03:30 PM
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Hey at least we dont have to hear about our nations "moral compass" anymore. As far as teabaggers go, Im not the type to stand and scream like a maniac for anyone. However The Constitution as a document is going to come under great debate whether its a "living" or "adjustable" set of rules. And for once in my life I truely have no idea where I stand. I will state I do not own a gun for the simple reason, I would use it! Sounds good, but you have the wrong thread  .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Garbage
[Re: pizzaboy]
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01/16/13 03:42 PM
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Hey at least we dont have to hear about our nations "moral compass" anymore. As far as teabaggers go, Im not the type to stand and scream like a maniac for anyone. However The Constitution as a document is going to come under great debate whether its a "living" or "adjustable" set of rules. And for once in my life I truely have no idea where I stand. I will state I do not own a gun for the simple reason, I would use it! Sounds good, but you have the wrong thread  . Sorry fella's between the Morphine and my nurses ass Im not myself!
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Re: Garbage
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01/16/13 08:34 PM
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Who is Joe Sass?? That name sounds really familiar to me! He's an ancient bookmaker here in the Bronx. I have no earthly idea what he's even doing in a case like this. Garbage is definitely not his forte, and it's not something that one generally gets into so late in life. He must be damn near 80 years old. In his case, either the Feds are reaching or they're just looking to rattle an old man. A shame.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Garbage
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01/16/13 08:38 PM
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PIZZA BOY here is something on Joe Sass: Firefighter, three geriatric gangsters accused of running gambling ring for Genovese crime family 'Theyāve been using the same simple formula since 1975'
A New York City firefighter and three geriatric gangsters were busted in the Bronx Thursday for allegedly running a $2 million-a-year gambling and loansharking ring for the Genovese crime family.
Mob associate Joseph (Joe Sass) Sarcinella, 77, who prosecutors say ran the sports book, has been busted twice before ā once in the mid-1970s for running a $50 million operation for Vincent (The Chin) Gigante.
āTheyāve been using the same simple formula since 1975,ā said one source involved in the Bronx probe.
In 2001, the wiseguy was nailed again for running a $10 million gambling ring in Bronxdale. He pleaded guilty the next year, and served four months ā one weekend at a time.
In the 73-page indictment, the Bronx district attorney charged that the eight-man crew ā three older than 75 ā levied exorbitant interest, sometimes 100% of the bet. The old men sometimes met at Venieroās on E. 11th St.
"They would summon their loan shark victims to come and settle up," at the pastry shop,āwhere they nibbled pastry and talked business police said.
Bruno (Cola) Totino, 81, Dominick (Pepe) Pietranico, 81, John DāAbrosio, 54, Frank Mastracchio, 56, Dominick (Whitey) Totino, 44, and Thomas McMahon, 29, were all charged with loansharking and promoting gambling and racketeering - a felony carrying a maximum 25 prison stretch.
McMahon, 29, a seven-year vet of the FDNY assigned to Ladder 38 in Belmont, acted as a runner, collecting bets on the streets and paying out winnings, according to the indictment. He was suspended for 30 days, the Fire Department said.
Prosecutors caught the gangsters on wire tapes shaking down sports gamblers for big money.
āThey specialized in football but they took bets on everything,ā the source said. āThese guys have been doing this for a hundred years. āThese are old hands for the family. Theyāre old pros.ā
The operation ran between 2009 and 2011, taking the action through a social club and two offices in Pelham Gardens and Fordham Heights.
McMahonās uncle, Mastracchio, 56, was also busted for criminal possession of a weapon after cops found a sawed-off shotgun and a pistol in his Bronx home.
McMahon could not be reached for comment..
Murray Richman, the lawyer for all the men except the firefighter, declined to comment.
In the social club on 1480 Mace Ave. Thursday night where bets were allegedly collected, five guys were screaming at each other over the bust.
One man was slammed his hand against the wall and screamed at another āYou know how much f--king money that is!ā
āYou should have f--king known!ā a second guy screamed.
But they calmed down when approached by a News reporter.
āTalk to the lawyer,ā one of the men said. āThere wasn't anything illegal happening here.ā
Another man headed to the nearby bodega where he purchased 15 scratch tickets.
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Re: Garbage
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01/16/13 08:40 PM
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Who is Joe Sass?? That name sounds really familiar to me! He's an ancient bookmaker here in the Bronx. I have no earthly idea what he's even doing in a case like this. Garbage is definitely not his forte, and it's not something that one generally gets into so late in life. He must be damn near 80 years old. In his case, either the Feds are reaching or they're just looking to rattle an old man. A shame. It's a time-tested business principle, pizza. Diversification! 
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Re: Garbage
[Re: Beanshooter]
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01/16/13 08:44 PM
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pizzaboy
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Thanks, Beanshooter  . I remember that case from a year or so ago. It turned out to be much ado about nothing. They ALL got off with fines and conditional releases. It was a total waste of time and money. This case is a lot more serious just by virtue of it being a Federal RICO case. I know that lawyer well, Murray Richman. They call him "Don't Worry Murray." He's a fucking creep, but he's very good. He represents high profile black rappers all the time. Not that those guys are remotely close to real gangsters, but their high profile has made Murray a very rich man.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Garbage
[Re: IvyLeague]
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01/16/13 08:56 PM
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pizzaboy
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It's a time-tested business principle, pizza. Diversification! True enough, Ivy. But at his age it just wasn't very smart. Sass was never a tough guy. Not even when he was younger. I had a little back and forth about this with Charlie on the other board, but Joe Sass was very close to Joe Dente Sr. back in the day. They were together constantly. For a mob skipper, Dente was actually a pretty big hearted guy. He was always looking out for guys who were a little bit "soft," as long as they weren't rats. Dente used to really look out for Sass, and Sass came to count on it. I'm just not sure that he has the kind of Rabbi today that he did back then. My gut tells me that he's being used here, and I feel badly for him. But I'm just a neighborhood guy. So what the fuck do I know? 
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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