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Re: Al Capone overrated as a gangster? Top 5 bosses?
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01/16/13 01:45 AM
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Sure most people throw their hat to original commission members and/ or their successor but lest we forget...
The job was easier back then IMO. Things are a lot harder now a days. The way I look at it anyone who can stick around today balancing indictments, rats, FBI, AND profits all the while keeping things in check for longer than a fleeting moment has my vote.
F. Mazola, Esq.
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Re: Al Capone overrated as a gangster? Top 5 bosses?
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Sure most people throw their hat to original commission members and/ or their successor but lest we forget...
The job was easier back then IMO. Things are a lot harder now a days. The way I look at it anyone who can stick around today balancing indictments, rats, FBI, AND profits all the while keeping things in check for longer than a fleeting moment has my vote. Good points! Such a lightning rod now
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Re: Al Capone overrated as a gangster? Top 5 bosses?
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01/16/13 03:16 AM
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The way I look at it anyone who can stick around today balancing indictments, rats, FBI, AND profits all the while keeping things in check for longer than a fleeting moment has my vote. If Al Capone were around today and acted like he did back then, he would last about thirty seconds against today's careerist prosecutors and feds. He was way more public, open, and flamboyant than John Gotti, and we all know where those traits got him. Capone wouldn't stand a chance today. I do think that in the context of his own era Capone was a great boss.
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Re: Al Capone overrated as a gangster? Top 5 bosses?
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01/16/13 06:04 AM
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Camarel
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I feel like a idiot for doin this but.....
1.Gambino 2.Vito Genovese 3.Frank Costello 4.Benny Squint 5.a&b- Chin and Salerno
Me too lol. 1.Gambino 2.Accardo 3.Lucchesse 4.Gigante 5.Luciano
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Re: Al Capone overrated as a gangster? Top 5 bosses?
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01/16/13 12:57 PM
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When Capone was boss they really only needed one racket, bootlegging. He grew it into an organization making up to $100 million a year from 1925-30, or more than a billion dollars annually in today's dollars.
He basically founded the Chicago mob and successfully ran, at that time, an organization that involved thousands if not tens of thousands of people. And he ran it so successfully that the only way the government could finally get him was by blindsiding him on tax evasion, which was something that had only been used sparsely at that time, and from what I've read the trial was pretty much a sham and he should not have been found guilty.
Overall I think he was pretty successful, although his management style was much more blunt and simple than the extremely cunning bosses who would follow him like Accardo and Humprhies.
In terms of body counts he must have one of the highest in terms of the number of hits he ordered.
And in terms of pure numbers of the organization it probably also reached its peak at that time.
On a personal level he wasn't very successful as he contracted syphilis and his life was essentially over by the time he was 40. But I imagine Al Capone never expected to live very long anyway. I remember some quote where someone asked him about the dangers, or overall negatives, of his job and he said, "That's true, but if I wasn't doing this what would I be doing? Shining shoes in Brooklyn."
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Re: Al Capone overrated as a gangster? Top 5 bosses?
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When Capone was boss they really only needed one racket, bootlegging. He grew it into an organization making up to $100 million a year from 1925-30, or more than a billion dollars annually in today's dollars.
He basically founded the Chicago mob and successfully ran, at that time, an organization that involved thousands if not tens of thousands of people. And he ran it so successfully that the only way the government could finally get him was by blindsiding him on tax evasion, which was something that had only been used sparsely at that time, and from what I've read the trial was pretty much a sham and he should not have been found guilty.
Overall I think he was pretty successful, although his management style was much more blunt and simple than the extremely cunning bosses who would follow him like Accardo and Humprhies.
In terms of body counts he must have one of the highest in terms of the number of hits he ordered.
And in terms of pure numbers of the organization it probably also reached its peak at that time.
On a personal level he wasn't very successful as he contracted syphilis and his life was essentially over by the time he was 40. But I imagine Al Capone never expected to live very long anyway. I remember some quote where someone asked him about the dangers, or overall negatives, of his job and he said, "That's true, but if I wasn't doing this what would I be doing? Shining shoes in Brooklyn."
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Re: Al Capone overrated as a gangster? Top 5 bosses?
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01/16/13 11:11 PM
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Ivan
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I would certainly put Bonanno among my top 5 bosses. Became boss at the extremely young age of 26 This is kind of a nitpick, but in his era that wasn't extremely young for a crime boss; it was more "young-ish". It's hard to imagine someone today being that young as a boss though. Remember everyone flipping out over Montagna being a 35 year old acting boss? And I think someone just being made today at 26 would be fairly uncommon.
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Re: Al Capone overrated as a gangster? Top 5 bosses?
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01/17/13 02:59 AM
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I feel like a idiot for doin this but.....
1.Gambino 2.Vito Genovese 3.Frank Costello 4.Benny Squint 5.a&b- Chin and Salerno
I know it's a little bit of a childish post on my part but I just wanted to see what everyone had to say. Vito Genovese wasn't really a great boss. He was a lunatic, and didn't last that long. He had made so many enemies Costello and Luciano set him up and off he went to prison. To be a great boss you have to be liked. That's why guys like Galante got whacked.
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Re: Al Capone overrated as a gangster? Top 5 bosses?
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01/17/13 06:27 AM
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I saw carlo supposedly spent 22 months in prison but wikipedia said that and it doesn't say that anywhere else but wiki. So I don't trust Wikipedia on this particular case. If he did then thats really little to no time. But the fact that he could be that strong and powerful without the Feds being able to put him away is just unbelievable. He was in NYC where everyone is going to be watching him. The biggest city in the US. Not Philly or Connecticut. The boss of NYC. He's probably the only person who could ever pull that off in NYC. He did spend 22 months in Lewisburg State Prison back in the early 1940s for conspiracy to violate internal revenue of liqor laws (I think it´s called). In another seperate charge (in relation to the first charge), Gambino was sentenced to one year and one day to be run concurrently with the first conviction. At the time, Gambino was a skipper. Yeah. "He never spent a day in jail" is just yellow journalism by the media, much like Gotti was "the boss of all bosses". Untrue, but it sells.
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Re: Al Capone overrated as a gangster? Top 5 bosses?
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01/17/13 10:11 AM
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I feel like a idiot for doin this but.....
1.Gambino 2.Vito Genovese 3.Frank Costello 4.Benny Squint 5.a&b- Chin and Salerno
I know it's a little bit of a childish post on my part but I just wanted to see what everyone had to say. Vito Genovese wasn't really a great boss. He was a lunatic, and didn't last that long. He had made so many enemies Costello and Luciano set him up and off he went to prison. To be a great boss you have to be liked. That's why guys like Galante got whacked. I gave him credit due to what he left behind.
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Re: Al Capone overrated as a gangster? Top 5 bosses?
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01/17/13 10:20 AM
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1. Carmine Galante 2. Carmine Galante 3. Carmine Galante 4. Carmine Galante 5. Carmine Galante
Yes, it's a joke. It's hard making a top 5. Guys like Gambino, Costello and Luciano would def be there, though. Some one has a boner for little carmine
Random Poster:"I'm sorry I didn't go to an Ivy-league school like you"
"Ah I actually I didn't. It's a nickname the feds gave the Genovese Family."
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