I'll pm you.

I sincerely hope that this will help with the shootings. But as long as there are evil/wicked people on this earth it will keep happening. They will just use something else besides the AK's & AR's.

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A law bidding person who has a legal gun is not apt to use it.

But a law breaker who has an illegal gun is very apt to use it.

So the government is putting more restrictions on legal gun owners. So what's that going to do to stop gun violence.

I just learned you can not control guns.

Look up a guy named Cody Wilson I just saw him on Glenn Beck.

"You're very observant: the sacred and the propane."

Little F'N Carmine .

Just a little bit about the Second Amendment's role in all this. Olivant, who is very well versed in constitutional law, can add as well.

It's interesting that the Heller case in 2008 marked the first time that the Supreme Court found that the Second Amendment provided an individual right to bear arms. The decision struck down D.C.'s ban on handguns and its requirement that lawful firearms in homes have a trigger lock or be disassembled. The majority's 5-4 ruling (which is an example of conservative judicial activism) was narrow in scope in that it recognized that the government has a right to regulate and restrict firearms, and that the ban of handguns was unconstitutional as that class of weapons is commonly used for self defense, which for the first time was viewed as a basis for Second Amendment protection.

It stands that the Second Amendment does not protect an individual right to possess short barreled shot guns or high capacity military assault weapons as they do not fall within the class protected by the Court. There was a case in the 1930s (Miller) that unanimously found that Congress had a right to regulate and prohibit such weapons not in common use, but that case did not recognize an individual right to bear arms outside the prefatory clause of the Amendment. In a sidenote Mr. Miller, who challenged the National Firearms Act in that case, did not live to see the decision as he had been shot to death.

An interesting thing to note is that the NRA leadership opposed Mr. Heller going forward with his suit against D.C. because they did not believe the Court would find an individual right, and would issue an unfavorable decision with precedential value.

Yeah, but I heard he can't subtract.

Sorry for hijacking you post, Counselor. But I had to take the shot when I saw the opening. That's a great post, by the way .

You know Kly, I find tremendous fault with Scalia's opinion that the 2nd Amendment's prefatory clause (about the militia, etc) has no effect on the amendment's application. Madison included the phrase in his original proposal of it. In fact, the Senate reversed the order of the Amendment's two clauses to emphasize the militia aspect of it. That, in his opinion, Scalia allowed some governmental restrictions on forearms is an affront to strict construction of the Constitution. Of course, it's no surprise that Substantive Due Process is a refuge for both liberals and conservative jurists.

Well played.

Finding a protected right of self defense in the Second Amendment would be a stretch for strict constructionists too as two states at the time of the convention had included rights to bear arms in their respective declarations of rights that specifically included purposes of hunting and self defense. Yet the Framers excluded that language from the Amendment.

Dems not backing President Obama's toughest gun measures

Background checks are likely to pass -- but not much else, Hill insiders say

By Dan Friedman / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

WASHINGTON - Democrats are rallying behind President Obama's proposal for universal background checks on gun sales but even some top liberals are balking at other key safety provisions.

The president’s bid to ban military-style assault weapons is already losing steam in the Senate, Democratic aides said, even as Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) prepares to formally offer the plan next week.

Top Senate aides said a proposal to ban high capacity ammunition magazines also faces long odds.

Mayor Bloomberg, a leading proponent of strengthening restrictions on firearms, conceded Thursday on “CBS This Morning” most of the sweeping package of proposals to reduce gun violence Obama announced a day earlier is unlikely to make it through Congress.

And House Republicans are hardly discussing gun legislation during a retreat in Williamsburg, Va., according to House aides, so the Senate will lead on the issue.

But Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is already maneuvering to shield his caucus from a politically tough vote on guns.

Reid decided to move Obama's comprehensive package piecemeal through the Senate, allowing Democrats up for reelection in 2014 to back more popular provision, such as the background check proposal, and oppose the other measures, which are seen as unpopular.

Many of the Democratic senators up for reelection next year in gun-friendly states reacted coolly to Obama's plan.

"Before passing new laws, we need a thoughtful debate that respects responsible, law-abiding gun owners in Montana instead of one-size-fits all directives from Washington," said Sen. Max Baucus.

Sen. Mark Begich of Alaska predicted "it will be hard for any" of Obama's legislative proposals to pass. "There are some of us who just fundamentally believe in a Second Amendment right.”

Even liberal Sen. Al Franken, eyeing a 2014 race in Minnesota, stopped short of endorsing an assault weapons ban.

Lawmakers view universal background checks as easier to pass because, they argue, they do not limit rights of law-abiding gun owners.

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D—N.Y.) touted his bill to impose universal background checks in a statement — and then ignored other proposals.

Currently only licensed gun dealers must perform background checks, while other sellers — including vendors at gun shows — do not make such checks. Such sales account for 40 percent of gun purchases each year, the White House says.

That translates to roughly 4 million guns sold every year without background checks.

"The system is woefully incomplete," Vice President Biden said Thursday in a speech to the U.S. Conference of Mayors.

Biden compared a background check to swiping a credit card. "It's not an inconvenience," he said.

Democrats also believe they can advance measures to beef up mental health care, as well as a bill to make gun-trafficking illegal, which they say would cut down on straw purchases.

Both parties have also embraced vague plans to examine the role of video games on violence.

dfriedman@nydailynews.com

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/dems-waiver-gun-bills-article-1.1242188#ixzz2ILky3BOe

Even if I cannot, I'm still light-years ahead of Throggs Neck residents who, of all things, chose to live in a place called Throggs Neck.

This just tells me that ALL elected pigs don't give a rats ass about this issue. They just want to make sure that they don't hurt their chances getting reelected next year. It's all about lining their pockets even deeper. Makes me sick.

I know their all wealthy and very selfish the middle class is getting screwed right now a lot of those guys are puppets for the people they represent they have to protect their interest therefore screwing over a million people to benefit a couple thousand people and the song remains the same...

(CNN) -- A 12-gauge shotgun loaded with bird shot accidentally discharged Saturday when the owner opened its case at a gun show at the North Carolina State Fairgrounds in Raleigh, injuring a retired sheriff's deputy and two other people, police said.

The gun owner, a 36-year-old man from Wilmington, North Carolina, was carrying the weapon through security at the show entrance and was unfastening the case on a table, authorities said. The owner planned to sell the shotgun at the show.

The deputy suffered a slight injury to his hand and was treated and released at a local hospital, said Joel Keith, chief of police of the North Carolina State Fair. A 54-year-old woman from Benson, North Carolina, was being treated a wound to her right torso at a local hospital, and a 50-year-old man from Durham, North Carolina, was treated for an injured left hand, Keith told reporters.

Born in GA, lived in FL and NJ.

Dick Cheney moved to North Carolina?

I am originally form area west of Kingston, New York, west of there. Almost everyone has a gun, or multiple weapons, yet we have no violence and low crime. Kingston is middle sized city, with some crime. The different lifestyles and upbringings make the difference. I am now in what is considered a nice area of New York City, yet many people here should not be armed in my opinion. People get into fights over the silliest things, like a parking spot or what they consider to be a wrong look. Obviously mentally ill people are on trains and on streets. That is root of problem. I learned gun safety as child, my whole family did. The Connecticut school shooters mother knew he had mental problems, yet let him know she had weapons. His mental illness coupled with her carelessness led to this whole problem.

On gun appreciation day or what ever it was called. There were 4 gun accidents.

I never had a gun accident and I have been firing guns since I was 12 years old.

But I was accidently wounded when I was 34 years old. I say accidently because the guy who shot me was trying to kill me. I wonder what ever happened to that guy.

I was laid up for months. I needed a walker to watch one of my sons soccer games. At the end of tge game I was too tired to walk off the field to get to my car. So I called up a car service to come on to the field and take me to my car.

Schummer thinks one day he will be president or vice president. He will be a senator forever, but nothing higher then that.

+1

If the problem are the mentally ill, does that mean that there are more mentally ill in the US than elsewhere?

The Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show, which is an exhibition that yearly brings over a hundred thousand visitors and buyers from around the eastern USA, last week banned vendors from selling assault weapons and some sport rifles. AA sizable number of gun dealers dropped from the event, and yesterday the NRA pulled out.

Not at all. It just shows that guns are a part of our young country's culture. Every once in a while we have to kick some Nazi's ass.

Here in Arizona, the "Second Amendment State," our County Sheriff said he would refuse to enforce any federally mandated gun controls that he believes are "unconstitutional." Sounds like we could get rid of the Supreme Court, their salaries, perks, etc., and leave all constitutional issue to our Sheriff.

Four AZ legislators introduced a bill that would require Arizona to ignore any new Federal gun controls, and to charge any Federal official attempting to enforce them as a Class 6 Felony offender. Any day now, someone will introduce a bill for AZ to secede from the Union.

I don't understand this answer? Do you mean that the victims of gun violence are Nazis?

Not at all. I can't even imagine how you'd conclude that.

D, the information that you posted within a map is non-comparable. For one, it compares US cities homicide rates against those of nations. For another, homicide definitions among law enforcement, prosecutors, and coroners do vary among nations.