i dont think thats him because i think HP is in his late 40s

i eat my words.its true,his son in law got the promotion.

What is true? The fact that TG was shelved?

And whose son in law are you referring to that is now Consigliere?

funny story how lana use to beat on him, i also wonder whether he learned that he has to file his taxes to avoid any future tax evasion charges lol

not him, highly doubt he would be in brooklyn

he was never consiglieri.

he got broken from skip.

I still don't follow - Are you saying that Graziano was never Consigliere? What do you mean "he hot broken from skip"?

Also, whose son in law got the promotion? And what promotion are you referring to?

Broken means demoted

Graziano was never the official consigliere and if you look at his indictments he is listed as a capo

I agree. I think Jerry knows his stuff and I think he's getting a bad wrap here. I respect everyone's opinions though

The guy used to be around Rastelli, Mirra and Lefty. He's a big guy.

Tg got demoted to soldier, his son in law is now skipper of the crew. I'm not saying names but its not too hard to figure out who it is.

tg was appointed official consig by massino in feb of 2001 after spero was officially sentenced and told tg of the promotion on a trip to mexico, but you are correct in terms of tg's most recent hierarchical position


out of curiosity, does anybody know who was the colombo member who won the sitdown with tg when tg wanted to whack john pappa and calvin hennigar after they shot up the topless joint?

I read when Lana and Porky divorced TG was in the room doing the negotiation or part of it. LOL

Dap, I looked for an hour googling that sitdown and all I came up with is Colombo reps. No names. Most articles are just the same ones anyways, just reprints. Would be interesting to know why they saved him as he could of ratted. Was the sitdown after the Scopo hit? I always liked TG heard he once he blow torched a victim and drug one behind a car. I am sure someone else did the work probably JR.

^^u serious? lol

porky was/is a ridiculous earner - had freaking pete rose the baseball player as a customer

Yes Ivy posted the burning thing in a Graziano post in July 2011 on here. He would no more on that.



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Maybe Ivy can shed some light on that sitdown he is always very up to date with his info. Very well researching by him. JMO

Porky and Joey Vollaro are the biggest bookies in NY!

I mean Tony.

He actually was the consigliere and was indicted as such back in 2002 on two cases in New York and Florida. When he came out of prison his rank had changed to captain and that's what he was indicted as most recently.

Why the rank change is anybody's guess. In my opinion, it probably had something to do with the boss and underboss in the administration he was a part of flipping. Of course, he didn't flip himself and still carried a significant rank as captain, though no longer part of a new administration. But that's apparently changed now with the problems with his former son-in-law and the TV show.

Tony Rabito acted for him right?

yeah i dont recall of the top of my head if it was ever revealed who was that colombo guy who represented them at that sitdown. The Joseph Scopo hit was in october of 1993 and the murder conspiracy/sitdown with tg was in 1994

The Genovese family is said to run the biggest sports book in the New York/New Jersey area.

Yeah, Rabito was indicted as the acting consigliere in 2007.

Vollaro and Porky are the biggest SINGLE bookmakers in ny, more specifically SI. There could be bigger, but not on SI. This much i know...but i agree with u, as a whole genovese has more sports action.

What family are porky and Vollaro from?

Porkys a Bonano.

Vollaro is a Gambino who reports to The Corozzos.

Was he charged in that last indictment against Corozzo's crew?

No. I dont think hes made either

Vollaro flipped and worked for the feds, he never was made


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Vollaro