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Re: Constitutional Amendment To Ban Same Sex Marriages?
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03/05/04 07:38 PM
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Yes, your example makes no sense because it's pointless. Just because two people cannot reproduce doesn't mean they are wrong or unnatural. They actually COULD create life. You're missing MY point which is they JUST DON'T CHOOSE TO. Some people don't want children... I guess they're wrong and unnatural and shouldn't be allowed to marry, right? How 'bout no. Gays can't change what they are -- they don't choose to be gay, but they are, it's genetical. They can go out and create life if they wanted to, but they don't. Some even do, just to reproduce. As I said earlier, some handicapped/retarded people cannot reproduce, that doesn't make them "wrong" and it shouldn't mean they aren't allowed to marry. Read LDV's post... It proves your theory about reproduction wrong.
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Re: Constitutional Amendment To Ban Same Sex Marriages?
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03/05/04 09:32 PM
03/05/04 09:32 PM
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Don Pope
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Originally posted by La Dolce Vita: Originally posted by Don Pope: [b] I was stating that nature intended a male and a female to be together, thats why together they have the power of creating a life. As in if nature intended homosexual and lesbian to be together they would be granted the power to create a life as well. Um....no.
By your logic, infertile couples are not eligible to "be together".
My husband has had a vasectomy.
I am also not able to get pregnant.
He is a man. I am a woman. But nature does not allow us to procreate anymore. Should we not be together? Or will you say that as a man and a woman, though we have outlived our usefullness we are exempt from your nature rule?
Homosexuality has been alive and well for centuries. It is only in the last century that people have been able to express themselves. Would society be better off if those people kept themselves hidden from view? I'd be more worried about people expressing themselves through child pornography than worrying about what two consenting adults do with each other.
Something I read today: The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision. [/b]um...yes you dont get the point, GOD MADE MAN AND WOMAN. GOD MADE THE MAN HAVE A PENIS. GOD MADE THE WOMAN A VAGINA. GOD INTENDED THE PENIS TO GO INTO THE VAGINA. GOD DID NOT MAKE THE PENIS GO INTO THE PENIS. GOD DID NOT MAKE THE VAGINA GO INTO THE VAGINA. DO YOU SEE THE POINT? THEY WERE NOT MADE TO INTERACT TO THE SAME SEX. by the way i dont care about ur personal life, im stating my opinion, either like or not,i dont care. and a vesectomy isnt a natural thing either so the dosent fit into the equation.
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Re: Constitutional Amendment To Ban Same Sex Marriages?
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03/06/04 12:28 AM
03/06/04 12:28 AM
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Don Pope
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HAHA!! nice come back, a 10 year old could do better than that. Well if your so Pro-gay make a sign, grab some of your gay buddies and march down your street, i seriously dont give a shit. i stated my opinion once and then you who is being the ignorant one is sayin MY opinion is wrong and go about insulting me. unlike you i got better things to do then argue over the internet about shit that you cant do nothin about. have a nice night 
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"Suck it up, take the fall, do the time. That makes you what you are, that makes you who you are." -John Gotti
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Re: Constitutional Amendment To Ban Same Sex Marriages?
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03/06/04 01:07 AM
03/06/04 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by Don Pope: Originally posted by Don Vercetti: [b] Out of you two, Cheeks is the only one who actually made a point. out of me and him, I DONT REMEMBER FUCKIN TALKIN TO YOU! [/b]Wow, do you think using "fuck" to modify words in 90% of your posts makes you look smart or cool. Grow up. You were tolerable and now you are acting like a brat. Grow up and read the posting rights, you have no copyright to a thread. 
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Re: Constitutional Amendment To Ban Same Sex Marriages?
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03/06/04 01:23 AM
03/06/04 01:23 AM
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J Geoff
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Don Pope better calm the hell down. This thread was a mature discussion, with mature people, who could actually put together some well-thought-out opinions (on both sides of the issue) w/o the use of childish language and 4-letter words. Stop it. Now.
I suggest people ignore such posts.
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Constitutional Amendment To Ban Same Sex Marriages?
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03/06/04 02:30 AM
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Originally posted by La Dolce Vita: Originally posted by Vito The Godfather: A fucked up world loaded of mentally disturbed people having relationships with partners of the same goddamn sex. Newsflash: There are loads of "mentally disturbed" people "fucking up the world" who are having sex with members of the OPPOSITE sex.
Instead of focusing so much on same sex couples CONSENSUALLY choosing to love each other and express their affection in ways that they choose, I would be more worried about rapists and pedophiles who TAKE what they want at the expense of hurting and emotionally scarring their victims. What is really fucking up MY world? Which of these scenarios am *I* afraid of???? Yeah, and usually those rapists and pedophiles are old fucked up motherfuckers getting little boys of their same sex and fucking them in the ass. Doctors do it a lot. So they are gay. They all should be ELIMINATED.
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Re: Constitutional Amendment To Ban Same Sex Marriages?
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03/06/04 02:32 AM
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Vito The Godfather
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Originally posted by La Dolce Vita: Originally posted by Vito The Godfather: A fucked up world loaded of mentally disturbed people having relationships with partners of the same goddamn sex. Newsflash: There are loads of "mentally disturbed" people "fucking up the world" who are having sex with members of the OPPOSITE sex.
Instead of focusing so much on same sex couples CONSENSUALLY choosing to love each other and express their affection in ways that they choose, I would be more worried about rapists and pedophiles who TAKE what they want at the expense of hurting and emotionally scarring their victims. What is really fucking up MY world? Which of these scenarios am *I* afraid of???? Yeah, and usually those rapists and pedophiles are old fucked up motherfuckers getting little boys of their same sex and fucking them in the ass. Doctors do it a lot. They all should be ELIMINATED.
"It is the mind that makes someone wise or ignorant, slave or free."
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Re: Constitutional Amendment To Ban Same Sex Marriages?
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03/06/04 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by pro hetero  MaryCas: Our standards of morality and quality life are constantly compromised in the name of freedom of speech I am more than perfectly willing to sacrifice morality in the name of freedom of speech. 'Cause once we start compromising that, we're in deep trouble. Morality is something that can't be legislated. Everyone had their own ideas about what is "moral" and what isn't, and I don't want the government deciding for me by way of constitutional ammendments, or any other laws for that matter. As long as one's actions don't interfere with me or anyone else, why should I care what people do? I think I said in another post in this thread, something like: First, let's ban same-sex marriage; it's immoral. Then, let's ban same-sex sexual relations, since that must also be immoral. Next, we can ban sex outside of marriage, since many consider that immoral as well. And also, let's ban all types of sexual relations that some of our more extreme moralists are against, i.e. anal sex, oral sex, etc. And, now that I think about, while we're at it let's ban the performance of the sexual act in anything but the missionary position. And I guess we'll need "sex police" to arrest the offenders. Yeah, I know, it sounds ridiculous. But remember the slippery slope. If the religious right ran the country, we'd be on our way to the above. There are Ten Commandments. If you follow them, you can't get in trouble. Come to think of it, our Constitution was based on them. Go figure. Let's do a constitutional ammendment banning adultery. Then we can put half the adult population of the United States in jail 
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Re: Constitutional Amendment To Ban Same Sex Marriages?
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03/06/04 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by Don Pope: GOD MADE MAN AND WOMAN. GOD MADE THE MAN HAVE A PENIS. GOD MADE THE WOMAN A VAGINA. GOD INTENDED THE PENIS TO GO INTO THE VAGINA. GOD DID NOT MAKE THE PENIS GO INTO THE PENIS. GOD DID NOT MAKE THE VAGINA GO INTO THE VAGINA I'm no expert, of course, but I don't believe that gay men attempt to have sex by having one man try to insert his penis into another man's penis. Nor do I believe that there are any females out there attempting mutual vagina insertion. That said, may we assume that since you believe the penis, when in use as a sexual organ, is meant only to be inserted in a vagina, (and not a hand) that you have never masturbated?
"Difficult....not impossible"
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Re: Constitutional Amendment To Ban Same Sex Marriages?
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03/06/04 02:03 PM
03/06/04 02:03 PM
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J Geoff
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Plaw, I'm convinced people are so rigidly convinced that their opinion is "right" that they cannot even read or understand posts that contain reason and logic, let alone address them. Ahh well. 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Constitutional Amendment To Ban Same Sex Marriages?
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03/06/04 02:07 PM
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Well, when we're at the bottom of the slippery slope, I'm gonna apply for a job with the Sex Police. At least I'll get to watch all the things I'm no longer allowed to do.
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Re: Constitutional Amendment To Ban Same Sex Marriages?
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03/06/04 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by plawrence: Originally posted by Don Pope: [b] GOD MADE MAN AND WOMAN. GOD MADE THE MAN HAVE A PENIS. GOD MADE THE WOMAN A VAGINA. GOD INTENDED THE PENIS TO GO INTO THE VAGINA. GOD DID NOT MAKE THE PENIS GO INTO THE PENIS. GOD DID NOT MAKE THE VAGINA GO INTO THE VAGINA I'm no expert, of course, but I don't believe that gay men attempt to have sex by having one man try to insert his penis into another man's penis. Nor do I believe that there are any females out there attempting mutual vagina insertion.
That said, may we assume that since you believe the penis, when in use as a sexual organ, is meant only to be inserted in a vagina, (and not a hand) that you have never masturbated? [/b]You're right and Don Pope also negates oral sex
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Re: Constitutional Amendment To Ban Same Sex Marriages?
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03/06/04 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by plawrence: Originally posted by Don Pope: [b] GOD MADE MAN AND WOMAN. GOD MADE THE MAN HAVE A PENIS. GOD MADE THE WOMAN A VAGINA. GOD INTENDED THE PENIS TO GO INTO THE VAGINA. GOD DID NOT MAKE THE PENIS GO INTO THE PENIS. GOD DID NOT MAKE THE VAGINA GO INTO THE VAGINA I'm no expert, of course, but I don't believe that gay men attempt to have sex by having one man try to insert his penis into another man's penis. Nor do I believe that there are any females out there attempting mutual vagina insertion.
That said, may we assume that since you believe the penis, when in use as a sexual organ, is meant only to be inserted in a vagina, (and not a hand) that you have never masturbated? [/b]The point i was trying to make is that if a man and a man were ment to mingle they would have some sort of reproductive organ and be able to give birth, fortunately for me i dont need to use my hand all the time 
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"Suck it up, take the fall, do the time. That makes you what you are, that makes you who you are." -John Gotti
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Re: Constitutional Amendment To Ban Same Sex Marriages?
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03/06/04 02:12 PM
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Daigo Mick Friend
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Morality is something that can't be legislated. Everyone had their own ideas about what is "moral" and what isn't, and I don't want the government deciding for me by way of constitutional ammendments, or any other laws for that matter. But there needs to be a base point for what is moral to be established. Some may find it morally acceptable to marry more than one individual or a minor. I think there are laws prohibiting both. The laws against having more than one spouse and marrying a minor are based on what is moral. Like it or not most laws of the land are based on morality.
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Re: Constitutional Amendment To Ban Same Sex Marriages?
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03/06/04 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by Turi Giuliano: Originally posted by plawrence: [b] Originally posted by Don Pope: [b] GOD MADE MAN AND WOMAN. GOD MADE THE MAN HAVE A PENIS. GOD MADE THE WOMAN A VAGINA. GOD INTENDED THE PENIS TO GO INTO THE VAGINA. GOD DID NOT MAKE THE PENIS GO INTO THE PENIS. GOD DID NOT MAKE THE VAGINA GO INTO THE VAGINA I'm no expert, of course, but I don't believe that gay men attempt to have sex by having one man try to insert his penis into another man's penis. Nor do I believe that there are any females out there attempting mutual vagina insertion. That said, may we assume that since you believe the penis, when in use as a sexual organ, is meant only to be inserted in a vagina, (and not a hand) that you have never masturbated? [/b] You're right and Don Pope also negates oral sex [/b]im talking about nature as its intended, im not talkin about all the other ways to pleasure one, yes thats true theres oral sex and using your hand but Naturally god intended for the penis to insert the vagina. No one atleast gets it one bit?? seriously?
"Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer" -Micheal Corleone
"Suck it up, take the fall, do the time. That makes you what you are, that makes you who you are." -John Gotti
"you heard of the new chinese godfather? He made em an offer they couldnt understand" -Corrado Soprano
"Ahhh, im gonna go wash up" -Paulie Gultiari
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