In our American society ever since there was such, we of that society have tried through laws and regulations to mitigate behaviors which may cause harm. Thus, during any US Congress (it consists of two years; each year is termed a session) over 10,000 bills will be considered of which about 5% will be passed by Congress and sent to the President. In Texas during a 140 day biennial session of the Legislature, the Legislature will consider about 6,000 bills and pass 1,000-1,600. Any bills considered or passed have their supporters and opponents. All can be viewed as restricting or affecting one's rights.

Well, New York sure as hell pulled a fast one on New Yorkers didn't they.....we got no chance for ANY type of imput at all.

Many are saying that they/NY moved to quick, and that the emotions of people hearing about the little children put gas to the flames. Maybe a waiting period and some time to let all people have a chance (with level heads) would have helped some.

Most laws do restrict.That is a given. It is to the degree that worrys people on this issue.

Way to go, New York. The Empire State!!

Look at Britain! Gun crime is down, but look at knife crime!! They even had to outlaw some KNIVES.

The real problem is what New York starts, Other states jump on and follow. So watch out Sc NJ with Christy may not be that far behind-

Both (Cumo and Christy) seem to be setting themselves up for a run for the white House? The president after Sundays 60 Mins. interview seems to be giving his nod to Hillary- not to get off topic here...sorry

Has anyone seen that Video on You Tube from Australia warning Americans about Gun Control. What has happen to THEM and what they want to share to Americans. If someone could find it and post it I am sure many would learn something from it.

I have trouble posting those on this board.
And what about You Tube looking to charge people on some levels in the future. (again not to get off topic, but wanted to mention that )

i think this is the one that you are talking about fatherson, i have actually posted it before...

Can I carry a stick of dynamite, a hand grenade and a flame thrower under the Second Amendment?

see, these are the exact kind of silly arguments that are constantly thrown towards gun owners, and then when we take the bait and respond, people are quick to jump in with terms like "gun nuts", or something similar. lets just take this board for example, i haven't seen one person on the more pro-gun side of things arguing for that, yet it doesn't stop people from using it as some sort of extreme example to paint us as crazy. what we are talking about are small arms, not those silly items you listed.

YES, that is the one I was talking about. Thanks for finding it and posting it.

Oh yeah, but it will never happen here ..RIGHT?

Good point on the name calling. Why is it cuz I am pro gun I am a gun nut or just because I disagree with Obama's agenda I am a right wing nut job?

This is what you get from people who have no real facts about something concerning this issue.

But let them have a problem, say a home invasion or their wife gets mugged or even raped some night and then lets see fast they run for some home protection.

Or your driving down a street and a gang of people block your way and start banging on your car saying give us your money and lets see how the little lady feels about things then.

Oh it will never happen to you...now who is naive Kay.

well, when people lack knowledge about a subject and emotion is whats fueling their opinion, its much easier to generalize as well as demonize an entire group as opposed to bringing forward facts and solid arguments.

And they are the ones who don't read the facts in anyones posts, but still know you are wrong!

I have seen some great facts, statistics and quotes by good sources, not all great but many, but we still get wise cracks and no real answers back.

How about a missile launcher?

http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/01/30/seattle-gun-buyback-nets-a-missile-launcher-instead/

Sorry I screwed up the link, but here is the story minus the pictures.
Here is the real story on one of them:

LAPD Gun Buy Back “Rocket Launchers” Are Harmless Hollow Tubes


We all saw the dastardly images; evil rocket launchers which were seized during a recent Sandy Hook induced LAPD Gun Buy Back program – being lauded around above the heads of every cop in Southern California.

LAPD Police Chief Charlie Beck was gravely tickled when he announced to a press conference of eager pro gun control journalists that “Those are weapons of war, weapons of death. These are not hunting guns. These are not target guns…they have no place in our great city.”

Well, yeah they do CHIEF, because the junk you’re parading around is available for sale at every two bit military surplus store in town! Those are AT-4 Single Use anti-tank grenade launchers. Once fired they are as harmless as a crazy straw and the disposable remains often times turn up in military enthusiast frequented establishments, much the same as deactivated grenades and other various shells and odds n ends do.

The real kicker is that one of the tubes the LAPD was parading around was just a training device which had never been loaded and could never be loaded because it’s sole intent was for display and practice purposes.



This is another classic example of “old media” – a term I’m coining here – being overly eager to jump on a story that parlays the current agenda of their President and his gun control cohorts in Washington. Or we have some really overpaid journalists reporting news which is completely unverified as to it’s validity.

http://dcxposed.com/2013/01/06/lapd-gun-buy-back-rocket-launchers-are-harmless-hollow-tubes-busted/

or this Click here: Wait Until You Hear the Clever Way Private Gun Buyers Invaded a Gun Buyback Program in Seattle | Video | TheBlaze.

The article I posted actually was about the Seattle buyback. Apparently the guy with the Stinger Missile Launcher bought it from someone standing in line. Maybe you get it for that special someone in your life who is SO difficult to shop for!

Can you get them on amazon?

SEATTLE - Seattle police worked with Army officials Monday to track down the history of a nonfunctional missile launcher that showed up at a weapons buyback program and determine whether it was legal or possibly stolen from the military.

A man standing outside the event Saturday bought the military weapon for $100 from another person there, according to Detective Mark Jamieson.

The single-use device is a launch tube assembly for a Stinger portable surface-to-air missile and already had been used. As a controlled military item, it is not available to civilians through any surplus or disposal program offered by the government, according to Jamieson.

Seattle police have contacted Army officials at Joint Base Lewis-McChord near Tacoma deputy chief Nick Metz said Monday.


and by the way in many states you find these same things in war surplus stores as they are harmless once they have been spent...POlice make a big deal out of them to show how great they are doing getting things off the street and oh they make such great headlines thou!
Until the real truth comes out and they look like fools.


The real sucker story was that people were dealing with the people parked around these buybacks. (which is legal there) and getting most of the good guns, paying cash for them instead of gift cards. But the police story says that the good people turned them in because they wanted them off the street...yeah these were the ones that other people did not want to buy because they were old, crap or DIDN"T WORK or were parts of a full firearm.

It so nice to read the real story from people that were really there, making post on blogs instead of media stories made up for a reason.

I read the daily apple and it didn't tell me how it is

Id buy one. I would buy a lot of things that have no practical use. Like weed.

It is easier for Cuomo to pass gun law than to pass one that really cuts down on crime. Stricter parole supervision, better prison programs to set inmates straight, instead of sending them out worse, tougher sentencing for repeat offenders, better tracking of dangerous mentally ill, he does none of that. So he passes unfair and useless gun laws that criminals will ignore, so he can say he did something that was tough on crime. Not a single criminal will obey it, but all honest gun owners will be forced to.

WTF!
I just came back from the sheriff's office where you go to get your gun's register and your license if you want to apply for one. (I was there to add another one to my carry license)

They have the best people who work there! They treat you like gold and never hassle you. They are true professionals.

We always chat while I file my paperwork and today was no different. I asked what the waiting period was for new people applying for a REG. License, The next appointment to take an application in to their office is MARCH 15 TH 2014 ! ! !
Then you may have 6-8 Months before background checks are done and a judge signs off after that.

So you could be waiting almost TWO YEARS if you start today and get your name on the list.
In New York you must register in your home county. So you just can't sneak into a smaller one out of the way some where and try and beat the system.
Damn, Thank GOD I have mine already. I wouldn't even want to try to get another CARRY License, It would takes years!

How about this for another form of Gun Control.

You can get your learner permit to drive a car at 16 and it takes you about an hour to take a small test and walk away with a learners permit...go figure!

Obviously they are underfunded. No sequester!

To elaborate on your post, sheriffs offices are funded by their respective counties through their respective governing bodies. Those bodies are responsible for approving or modifying county offices and departments budgets.

On the other hand, state legislatures fund their respective departments of public safety or departments of motor vehicles.

If this happened to any other department they would make sure funds (if that is the problem) were moved to make sure things rolled a lot better then that.

Remember when they opened offices on a Sunday even when they normally weren't open so they could give gay couples a chance to get married? They didn't seem to have problem paying then did they? Like people couldn't wait ONE extra day till Monday?

Get a kick out of this person, who cares enough to take the time to speak up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NyYYgLzF6zU

residents of ny state speaking up over unjust gun control measures...

here are the provisions of the current bill that the democratic lawmakers tried push through at 11:00pm, just an hour before the current bill was voted on, thankfully they were all rejected.

1. Confiscation of "assault weapons"
2. Confiscation of ten round clips
3. Statewide database for ALL Guns
4. Continue to allow pistol permit holder's information to be released to the public
5. Label semiautomatic shotguns with more than 5 rounds or pistol grips as "assault weapons”
6. Limit the number of rounds in a magazine to 5 and confiscation and forfeiture of banned magazines
7. Limit possession to no more than two (2) magazines
8. Limit purchase of guns to one gun per person per month
9. Require re-licensing of all pistol permit owners
10. Require renewal of all pistol permits every five years
11. State issued pistol permits
12. Micro-stamping of all guns in New York State
13. Require licensing of all gun ammo dealers
14. Mandatory locking of guns at home
15. Fee for licensing, registering weapons