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Originally posted by plawrence:
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Originally posted by MaryCas:
[b] This issue comes down to standards. What standards do you want to abide by or be guided by: Religious or Secular?

Well, I know that I don't want my standards, or the standards of the society in which I live, to be determined by any one group's religious beliefs. [/b]
MaryCas, the issue is more gray than even you lead on. Sure, some people are willing to part with the nation's core beliefs in order to follow a religious set of standards. But America was founded on the idea that EVERYONE is created equal. And the government was delegated some powers, and restrained from others. There is a system here. And the majority of issues facing the nation can be solved using our current system, including this one. The questioned you posed above is very misleading. If the government allows gays to continue to be married, are YOU losing any religious rights? Certainly not. But if the religious right deems homosexual marriages illegal, are THEY losing rights? Certainly. In only one circumstance are people losing rights, the former.

Plaw, we have found another thing to agree upon. I am a homophobe and a Christian, but even I can see that what MaryCas calls a "religious rule" is actually a Christian rule. Anyone who does not follow those same beliefs will be anlienated, and that is not the American way. In the current secular system, as repulsive as it may be morally, no one is alienated. We can pray to anyone we choose, if we choose to do so. And we can even screw other men. The key is, no one group is persecuted for their lifestyle unless it harms others. Ain't it grand?


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