You know what it is? None of the guys from ny have any illusions of grandeur about our "home town family" to bother arguing such a point. If you are remembered by what you left behind, chicago is right there with the Novajos.... They are confined to a small area and left to make money one or two ways. Rave all you want about Capone, Accardo, or Giancana, what did they leave behind? Sorry if i come off as rude.