See...this is a perfect example of what frustrates me about what you present as fact. John Stanfa was never "made". Being "made" is an American mafia tradition. Stanfa came directly from Sicily and had a very tied in network when he arrived. He immediately became Angelo Bruno's driver and advisor. He didnt need to be "made".

Ralph Natalee himself says that he "made himself". Ralph Natalee is an absolute loser. Bruno and Stanfa hated him. The way he got involved was that while serving time for his SEOOND SERIES OR NAROTICS CHARGES he met Joey Merlino who was doing a bid related to a hijacking gone bad. Natalee and Merlino became friends and made plans for when they got out. Nobody wanted Natalee to have any responsibility. His narcotics dealing kept him from ever even being considered. As it was he never excercised any real power anyway. Merlino was always the real boss and Natalee the lightning rod.

Natalee quickly caught a third set of narcotics charges and then flipped. The first boss of a commission sitting family to do so.

Natalee and Merlino were never commission approved either incidentally. Stanfa wasthe last commissioned Bruno family boss but he never really held power either because the Young Turks were at war with them and the line and rank in Philly saw the Sicilian as an interloper and sidgey.

Merlino was made. The current acting street boss Steven Mazzone never was.

Can you please cite some credible sources to support your claim? Thanks brother.

First, being "made" did not originate in the U.S. And a "made guy" is recognized as such on both sides.

Perhaps of interest, I read an article in "Mob Candy" that has quotes from Commander Izzo the head of the NYPD Organized Crime Control Bureau where he described Bradford "The German" Cox as "powerful and influential". He also admits that he has been a target of regular surveillance. He does however say that The German, as elusive as he has always been, seems to be less involved in underworld activities himself. The contributor who wrote the artile restates that The German is assumed to have some sort of executiv or advisory role in the family. Appareently he is very close to Liborio Bellomo and allegedky dates his goddaughter who he treats like a daughter as he apparently brought her over from Italy as a girl and raised her. I think this is where the Genovese link comes in.

This is why I didn't title this thread K&A Gang or something similar.
Everyone knows it pretty much faded into obscurity after John Berekery in the 80s.

For starters Tino is 100% Italian, Dominick Cirillo is the current Genovese Capo and Danny Leo isn't even close to an Albanian. And Barney doesn't have any God Daughter at all, in our home was three boys and a girl. I caution you talking about people you have no knowledge of! And I can't stand all this Mafia BS(I enjoy the Godfather portion) however your statements are so far fetched it's hard to believe that you read what you write, even harder to believe your nit trying to upset peoples lives by making improper false statements about them. Danny, Tino not Italian give me a break. Cirillo in the Gambino family. You can't even make this BS up. You've also stated the lineage of twenty people, where are you getting your info? Have you done a family tree for each? Matty Ianiello is also 100% Italian, his mothers maiden name was S------. Your a real dope. Smurf?

hey ivy league...how'd you get in when you can't spell "here" correctly...

As for the K&A, that's been over since the 80s, the northeast has a bunch of russians, polish, and mob guys but no fucking K&A...it aint 1970 anymore.

So I decided to go see the alleged hype about "The German". I went to his court appearance in the Brooklyn Superior Court on February 23rd. According to record discussion his federal RICO charges had been dropped at a grand jury hearing and more serious felony charged forfeited by the state. I noted Liborio Bellomo (Genovese Boss) in the courtroom as well as Steven Mazzonne (Philly acting street boss. There were also a number of attendees wearing Irish green ties including The German's attorney Bruce Cutler.

Prosecution offered a plea to dismiss all charges if he agreed to pay for property his alleged associates stole. He stated that he would not accept the plea and that he was prepared to fight the charges based on principal.

He stated in court that he felt because of certain alleged associations with organized crime he has been subject to repeated arrest and charges falsely. He said that it is his opinion that because he didnt cooperate with FBI agents in Philadelphia that they are attempting to corner him into one of three options. He said the FBI would only cease their conspiracy if he was dead, jailed or cooperating.

The judge then asked the prosecutor if the complaintant was present and the state declared that he was not only not present but reported missing. The judge postponed a decision and allowed the state a continuance until May 25th when the German is scheduled to appear again.

I have the court address if anyone is interested. The state did make a weak attempt to jail The German without bond based on his known affiliations with organized crime groups including the "Bruno and Genovese Families of so-called la cosa nostra, the philadelphia irish mafia group known as the k&a of which he is the undisputed leader and as a known material and monetary supporter of the terrorist organization the RIRA or Real Irish Republican Army."

That is a quote from his trial and more info can be found in articles in both the Daily News and New York Post.

Wow were is smurph getn this shit.