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Re: philly update
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02/11/13 05:05 PM
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This is the story I saw on the news! And I look up to see this image and still now cant help my giggling. [img] http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/17540226/mob-talk-ralph-natale[/img] Now, mind you, in December 2008 I learned that my one time highschool crush was one of the Fort Dix Six and was trial - him and his brother (another one of the 6, both attended my 15th bday party at my house). Meanwhile, in Dec 2008 I was finishing up my third semester in law school and a year later found myself in a mock trial advocacy course being taught by known other than my former crush's defense attorney (who was also the attorney in Rabbi Neulander case the 2nd time around). Those are my little claims to fame. My Fort Dix Six story is an interesting one; more so than my running past good ole Ralphie.
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Re: philly update
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Here is a link to Nicodema's criminal docket. His prelim is scheduled for Feb 20th. He's facing 6 counts, with murder and conspiracy to murder being most serious of the six. He has a private attorney (shocker!). I'll look into the specifics of Philly's statute for murder of a witness and see how it works. I didnt know that it was a death penalty qualifer. http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/DocketSheets/CPReport.ashx?docketNumber=MC-51-CR-0050662-2012
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Re: philly update
[Re: Giancarlo]
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When you are referring to Mike R. you mean the lawyer right? If so, then yes. He still teaches the course at my old school every semester. He is a demanding beast as a professor and makes everything look so easy. His wife is the brain behind the enterprise, while he is mouth. His performance (being on trial, that is) is damn near flawless. Rabbi Neulander asked Mike to represent him in an appeal and Mike declined. I toured Trenton State Prison back in Summer 2009, and all the guards love him. Says he is an outstanding prisoner. lol. He is still on the old death row, which now serves as the celeb wing.
As for the FortDixSix, yes I actually went to school with 4 of the 6. The 2 younger Dukas, who portrayed themselves as NYC badboys (I had no clue they were here illegally, since you have to damn near give blood samples to get into CherryHill school system); nor did I have any clue they were Muslim, but then I didnt know anything about religion other than Catholicism at the time. They were always very secretive. I had a bf at the time (who was friends with them)so luckily it didnt go anywhere. My dad still tried sending me to my room (in my apartment) 12 years after the fact.
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Re: philly update
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Oh yes in deed he is! It definitely is an aggravating qualifer. Maybe I can try to see if "shotgun" (no pun) is available for courtroom seats. lol.
"At the time of the killing, the victim was or had been a nongovernmental informant or had otherwise provided any investigative, law enforcement or police agency with information concerning criminal activity and the defendant committed the killing or was an accomplice to the killing as defined in 18 Pa.C.S. § 306(c), and the killing was in retaliation for the victim's activities as a nongovernmental informant or in providing information concerning criminal activity to an investigative, law enforcement or police agency."
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Re: philly update
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Oh my love! You are very right and yet so wrong. It would take me a good hour to type out a fantastic answer for you (or him if I were pretending to represent him). And I would have to read up on more of the specific details of the case. But, I will say from the outset, the feds generally only charge a case if they can win it; hence why the feds have a great conviction record. So when they lose, as they did just recently, they take it as a major blow. I will take a little more time to reread your response and reply with a more substantive response. And I am by far not 'big shot' and I am the first to point out how corrupt lawyers are. Finally, you may be better off representing yourself in a case, if it werent for all the procedural and evidentiary rules you will be required to know and comply with despite your lack of training. Which is why most self-rep cases fail. Now, there are, and I have personally seen, some defendants during sentencing cite the statutue number and precise language of a law and some judges have even been known to say that appeals written by prisoners on their own behalf are often better than those writtten by any attorney. Expect my response in the near future, counsel! Don't pay no attention to me I was just bustin your chops. You see I wriggled out of a few tight corners in my time so now with such profound wisdom in mind I like to think I can cut through the crap and do the Houdini on any charge no matter how slam dunk the case. If a lawyer unraveled this guy out of this jam I would be impessed. If they got a plea down to third degree I'd be impressed. But anyway it's nice to have this insight from someone who really does knows the law. Great to have your input Jacklynn 
'So I say, “Live and let live.” That’s my motto. “Live and let live.” Anyone who can’t go along with that, take him outside and shoot the motherfucker. It’s a simple philosophy, but it’s always worked in our family.'
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Re: philly update
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He is still at Trenton State. And its NJ's highest security prison and b/c of his "celeb" status he is there. I cant remember the one dude who is also on that wing (I wanna say Ambrose Harris) that has been completely sectioned off, even from the rest of the celeb wing and only a very select few (i.e., 2 or 3) COs that will go near him. He is that unpredictable.
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Re: philly update
[Re: Wilson101]
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If Gotti and Merlino were "Hollywood mobsters", Rocco is the definition of "Hollywood defense attorneys"....He went to Widener as well. And you must have paid a pretttty penny to even sit down with him. I think, but not sure, he is with same firm that rep'd Beanie Sigel and Cassidy in their cases.
Bigshots like him absolutely looove the attention when they talk about their big clients, whether win or lose.
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Re: philly update
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Well, he did one good thing in his life; taking and completing the contract on Mud Man. Guards were telling that story and said it was absolutely nuts. That guards "couldnt/wouldnt" do anything. Just stood there behind the locked doors and watched.
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Re: philly update
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Heard that...He actually just requested (and was denied) early release. LOL. He cant even be housed with the other high security inmates, let alone the genpop. Yet, somehow courts are going to grant his release into the real general population, i.e., society. Takes a few screws loose to try that one.
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Re: philly update
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Yes, all of Corzine's fans (death row inmates) were converted to life w/o....BUT, NJ, unlike PA, isnt a life w/o means life WITHOUT parole. Thus, life inmates can petition for early release and potentially have a judge grant the petition and be let out. With that said, Harris wont even see the door out of the celeb wing, let alone any of the doors. That prison has INTENSE security. All prisoners are behind 2 sets of doors which separate the administration offices and freedom. Everyone, COs included, have to go through full security and hand over their guns.
3 years later, I can still smell the inside of the prison in my hair. One of the other legal interns for NJ AG's office that went with my group on tour, got through 15 minutes before she felt physically sick and 3 COs had to escort her out. LOL! It was in the middle of July, 90 degrees outside, in there no less than 110 degrees. OMG! You get the point. I didnt eat lunch or dinner that night (not only had half a day left at the AG's office, but then had to drive from Trenton back to Delaware). I told people, I would kill myself before going to that prison. The average sentence is Life! lol.
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Re: philly update
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Yes, all of Corzine's fans (death row inmates) were converted to life w/o....BUT, NJ, unlike PA, isnt a life w/o means life WITHOUT parole. Thus, life inmates can petition for early release and potentially have a judge grant the petition and be let out. Just another reason to hate NJ.  3 years later, I can still smell the inside of the prison in my hair. One of the other legal interns for NJ AG's office that went with my group on tour, got through 15 minutes before she felt physically sick and 3 COs had to escort her out. LOL! It was in the middle of July, 90 degrees outside, in there no less than 110 degrees. OMG! You get the point. I didnt eat lunch or dinner that night (not only had half a day left at the AG's office, but then had to drive from Trenton back to Delaware). I told people, I would kill myself before going to that prison. The average sentence is Life! lol. I couldn't take being in that place (TSP) on a good day, but with no A/C i'd probably hang myself. Hell with that. lol Thanks Jacklynn, you've been very informative.
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Re: philly update
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Giancarlo, if you ever do find yourself in TSP, immediately act crazy. The psych ward IS AIR CONDITIONED! Granted, you may be in a cell alone and naked with video cameras on you, but nonetheless, Id take that over the smell of that place.
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Re: philly update
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The jails here in Georgia are air conditioned to the max! It keeps down diseases. When your inside, the most valuable commodity is a sweatshirt. Every time i got out I gave mine to the coolest dude in the pod. The other guys were looking at me with daggers. Oh well...
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Re: philly update
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The juvie lockup in philly is what is really overpacked. "Booking" area there is a big cage. Sometimes not even room to sit! lol.
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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Re: philly update
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Giancarlo, Nicodemo's preliminary hearing which is when judge will decide if there is enough evidence for case to go to trial (formally charged which is equiv of formal indictment). Prosecution does not show its hand and I'd be shocked if judge throws out charges. Defense attorneys (thus the client) are not ENTITLED (prosecutors can hand over before) to full discovery until 10 days prior to TRIAL in municipal (which is court Nicodemo is in).
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
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