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Re: Today Outfit's real power in Chicago ?
[Re: Ivan]
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02/20/13 08:49 PM
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I don't think anyone who knows the first thing about the Outfit would argue that Strawman and Gambat were devastating. Being removed from Vegas and losing their political power base in the First Ward weren't big deals? Seems to me like those were two major factors in turning them into more of a street level operation. Typo! Meant to say "weren't!" Lol. Yes they WERE devestating...as are the ones Gary mentions above.
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Re: Today Outfit's real power in Chicago ?
[Re: cookcounty]
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02/20/13 11:43 PM
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first you say chicago ain't involved in construction
now you're claiming they are involved in construction just not much
now you know about chicago's trucking industry and it's syndicate ties
how far does that telescope see and how much did it cost? Your reading comprehension is piss poor. Or you're trying to set up strawman arguments to knock down. When the hell did I say the Outfit wasn't involved in construction? Everyone knows about DiFronzo's companies - D&P and JKS Ventures. However, those are more trucking/waste companies then actual construction companies. There were also several Outfit-connected trucking companies involved in the "Hired Truck" program. As far as construction itself, Andriacchi was said to have interests in the business, at least in the past. And there were certainly more interests before so many Outfit guys got booted from the Laborers Union in the late 1990's and early 2000's. Not a lot of examples in recent years, especially compared to New York.
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Re: Today Outfit's real power in Chicago ?
[Re: furio_from_naples]
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02/21/13 06:26 PM
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Re: Today Outfit's real power in Chicago ?
[Re: jonnynonos]
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02/21/13 07:07 PM
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Re: Today Outfit's real power in Chicago ?
[Re: furio_from_naples]
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02/21/13 10:06 PM
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His Brother Mike Flipped, and named matsassa as the source for the leak in WP. I think that alone shows the current state of things in the outfit.
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Re: Today Outfit's real power in Chicago ?
[Re: IvyLeague]
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02/22/13 01:39 AM
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first you say chicago ain't involved in construction
now you're claiming they are involved in construction just not much
now you know about chicago's trucking industry and it's syndicate ties
how far does that telescope see and how much did it cost? Your reading comprehension is piss poor. Or you're trying to set up strawman arguments to knock down. When the hell did I say the Outfit wasn't involved in construction? Everyone knows about DiFronzo's companies - D&P and JKS Ventures. However, those are more trucking/waste companies then actual construction companies. There were also several Outfit-connected trucking companies involved in the "Hired Truck" program. As far as construction itself, Andriacchi was said to have interests in the business, at least in the past. And there were certainly more interests before so many Outfit guys got booted from the Laborers Union in the late 1990's and early 2000's. Not a lot of examples in recent years, especially compared to New York. chicago doesn't have "crime fighters" you get further in chicago by looking the other way new york is full of snitches and that's why there's more info on them
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Re: Today Outfit's real power in Chicago ?
[Re: 123JoeSchmo]
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02/22/13 02:19 AM
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Chicago is the most corrupt city in America. That's not a good thing. There's so many crooks and backstabbers in that place it's sickening. The state of Illinois should be more focused on cleaning up its justice system than a bunch of old geezers that take bets and are fading out into obscurity Isnt Barack Hussian Obama from Chicago? Hmm. So he didnt stomp out all the rich folk there cheating the man before coming to Washington?
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Re: Today Outfit's real power in Chicago ?
[Re: Skinny]
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02/22/13 10:11 AM
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SgWaue86,
Yes, great speaking with you as well. The guys who think the Outfit is stronger than ever, etc. are crazy.
I would definitely agree about it being "wide open." I once asked Fosco how, if you don't have guys like Harry Aleman running around killing people every 10 minutes, the Outfit prevents other people from starting books, etc. My exact question was: "Why can't a kid with a cell phone just set up a book?" He said that there are people who do that but that nobody gets paid, which is what keeps the Outfit bookies in business. (ie the other guys are amateurs and don't have a big enough bank.) I suppose that sounds plausible.
Ha... it would be an interesting experiment, to see if you could just set up a book somewhere around town, or put money on the street. I would guess that nobody would f**k with you, but who knows.
I have no way of knowing but I would guess it would be like, if you tried to open a book in Bridgeport, you would hear from someone. If you tried to do it in Lincoln Park? Probably not.
But I really don't know. I could set up shop this day in jersey, Jersey not chicago, and i wouldnt worry about getting a visit. And i live 10 min from Tony Sopranos house, to give u a picture... Who gets shaken down? Dumb ass bookies who play gangster. If u control the limits of ur guys u dont have to get tough or worry about them paying.... If ur worrying, they are worrying. Thats how u get caught, bettors run to the cops or a made dude. And ur fuckeddddd.... There are several low key books in NJ. Not all are small either! Makes me wanna make book in south philly! Tell those marmondano brothers to kiss my ass... Skinny. You are 100% correct on all accounts.
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