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Re: Thomas and Rosemarie Uva
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I already make a post on the Italian American Bonnie&Clyde http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...3517#Post633517The couple isn't so beautiful as in the movie Rob the Mob Thomas Uva and Rosemarie Uva (often misspelled Rosemary or Rose Marie) were married ex-cons from Ozone Park, Queens and considered a modern day "Bonnie and Clyde'' Thomas Uva had gotten out of prison in May 1992 at the age of 28. He and his 31 year old wife, who worked as the getaway driver, started holding up mafia social clubs throughout New York City that were owned by the Gambino crime family and the Bonanno crime family. As a result, mafia families put out an "open contract" to kill the couple. On the morning of Christmas Eve 1992, the two decided to go out on a last minute Christmas shopping drive. They left their Ozone Park home and got into their car. As they got to the intersection of Woodhaven Boulevard and 103rd Avenue, Dominick Pizzonia, a Gambino family capo, allegedly shot the couple several times in the head.Their bodies were discovered moments later when the car rolled through the intersection, collided with an oncoming vehicle, and came to rest against the front curb of nearby residence. The victims, and their killer, all lived in the same neighborhood of Ozone Park, about half a mile from the murder scene. There have also been speculations that the murders were done by Bonanno family soldiers, Anthony Donato and Vincent Basciano.On May 11, 2007, Dominick Pizzonia was convicted of plotting to kill the couple but the federal jury found the government did not prove he had actually killed them. Former Bonanno family underboss Sal Vitale said that he and Joseph Massino had a conversation with John Gotti Jr who told them, "we took care of it".For years, investigators suspected Junior Gotti played a role in the murder but was never charged and Gotti denied he had any involvement. http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/05/09/mob-hits-and-misses/Mob Hits and Misses By MIKE NIZZA Mafia clans are known to fight over turf, but credit for a double murder? F.B.I. documents cited by The Associated Press today recount a conversation between two rival families. ”We did that,” a captain in the Bonanno organized crime family asserted during a meeting. ”No, we did it,” then-acting Gambino family boss John A. ”Junior” Gotti responded. The answer is: When the victims really, really embarrassed all of them. William K. Rashbaum of The New York Times retold the story: In the annals of New York City crime, few undertakings were more ill-advised, foolhardy and just plain dangerous than the one that prosecutors say was chosen by Thomas and Rose Marie Uva, a young married couple from Queens. The Uvas set out more than a dozen years ago to solve their financial difficulties in a most unusual fashion: walking into mob social clubs with an Uzi submachine gun and separating the Mafiosi within from their ill-gotten gains. Mr. Uva, 28, even forced his marks to drop their pants, a prosecutor said. In 1992, they died in Ozone Park, Queens, shot to death while sitting in a 1990 four-door Mercury Topaz. The debate over credit emerged in the trial of Dominick ”Skinny Dom” Pizzonia, who is accused in the killings. His defense strategy involves creating enough confusion to add up to reasonable doubt, it seems.An F.B.I. report presented at the trial suggests that bragging rights for the hit were ultimately won by Mr. Gotti. That’s bad news for Mr. Pizzonia, who is suspected of working for the Gotti family.Whether the strategy will convince the jury remains to be seen. Closing arguments are expected today.
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Re: Thomas and Rosemarie Uva
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She wasn't that bad looking. I would have put it right in her butt.
"My uncle(Nicky Scarfo) always told me, you have to use your brains in this thing, and you always have to use the gun." -"crazy" Phil Leonetti-
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Re: Thomas and Rosemarie Uva
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wow. that actually looks pretty good. I know I'm a genius. But a lot of newer mob themed films suck, and you can often tell there gonna suck just by the trailer, this one struck me as some what original. I wasn't being sarcastic. I was clapping in agreement. It looks like it will be a very good movie.
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Re: Thomas and Rosemarie Uva
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Trying to go straight after an arrest, Rosie lands a job and persuades her lover Tommy to join her. But soon Tommy is skipping his shifts to attend the trial of mobster John Gotti. When he hears of a Mafia-owned club during the trial, he has an idea: Why not rob it? So begins a series of stickups of mob hangouts around the city. The raids draw the attention of the FBI. But while the attacks enrage the mob, leader Big Al orders his men only to scare the couple. During a heist, Tommy and Rosie stumble upon a Mafia secret so closely guarded that most mobsters don't know it exists. To the Feds, it's the smoking gun they've been looking for. To Big Al, it's the high cost of his leniency-a mistake he quickly moves to correct. For Tommy and Rosie, caught between the law and the mob, the future all depends on who gets to them first. Did they add a fake subplot to the story or am I missing something?
"I die outside; I die in jail. It don't matter to me," -John Franzese
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Re: Thomas and Rosemarie Uva
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02/08/14 07:01 AM
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Trying to go straight after an arrest, Rosie lands a job and persuades her lover Tommy to join her. But soon Tommy is skipping his shifts to attend the trial of mobster John Gotti. When he hears of a Mafia-owned club during the trial, he has an idea: Why not rob it? So begins a series of stickups of mob hangouts around the city. The raids draw the attention of the FBI. But while the attacks enrage the mob, leader Big Al orders his men only to scare the couple. During a heist, Tommy and Rosie stumble upon a Mafia secret so closely guarded that most mobsters don't know it exists. To the Feds, it's the smoking gun they've been looking for. To Big Al, it's the high cost of his leniency-a mistake he quickly moves to correct. For Tommy and Rosie, caught between the law and the mob, the future all depends on who gets to them first. Did they add a fake subplot to the story or am I missing something? there was something about them finding a list of mobsters in one of their robberies.
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Re: Thomas and Rosemarie Uva
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02/08/14 10:38 AM
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She wasn't that bad looking. I would have put it right in her butt. Lol she is good enough for the butt eh.
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Re: Thomas and Rosemarie Uva
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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/23/nyregion/23mob.html?_r=0Arrest in Killings of 2 Who Dared to Rob the Mob By WILLIAM K. RASHBAUM Published: September 23, 2005 In the annals of New York City crime, few undertakings were more ill-advised, foolhardy and just plain dangerous than the one that prosecutors say was chosen by Thomas and Rose Marie Uva, a young married couple from Queens. The Uvas set out more than a dozen years ago to solve their financial difficulties in a most unusual fashion: walking into mob social clubs with an Uzi submachine gun and separating the Mafiosi within from their ill-gotten gains. The crime spree was predictably short-lived. They were killed in 1992 in one of the more public executions in the recent history of organized crime in New York. On Christmas Eve, in broad daylight on a busy Queens thoroughfare, they were each shot several times in the head as they sat in a car at a traffic light. Ms. Uva, the authorities said, had more than $1,000 in her wallet; investigators said they believed the couple might have been out for some last-minute Christmas shopping. No one had been charged in the case until yesterday, when F.B.I. agents and police detectives arrested a man, whom they accused of being a captain in the Gambino crime family, on charges that he was part of the hit team that killed the couple. The man, Dominick Pizzonia, who prosecutors say was known as Skinny Dom, was charged with racketeering conspiracy, including the two murders. The robberies committed by the couple - in Brooklyn, Queens and Little Italy, at clubs with names like the Hawaiian Moonlighters and the Veterans and Friends - were such a sore point among mob figures, according to F.B.I. reports and law enforcement officials, that two crime families argued over who should get credit for their deaths. Federal prosecutors have said in court papers that John A. Gotti once boasted that his group, the Gambino family, was responsible for the hit, not the Bonannos, who had also claimed credit. "We took care of it," Mr. Gotti said, according to government court papers filed in his recent racketeering case in Manhattan. Mr. Gotti's lawyer, Jeffrey H. Lichtman, said yesterday that his client had no role in the crimes. "If they had any evidence against John, they certainly would have brought it in this case, or in the case in 1998 against John," he said. Regardless of who ordered the killings, they did not come before the mob had suffered some embarrassment. The robberies had stunned the world of organized crime: gangland figures were incredulous over the brazen assaults on the normally inviolate establishments where they played cards, sipped coffee and schemed, according to several law enforcement officials. There were at least four robberies, and as the crime spree stretched over several months, the mob initially seemed unable to stop it. Perhaps belaboring the obvious, one former high-ranking mob figure, who became a government witness several years ago, said, "It's embarrassing if wise guys get held up." The couple committing the robberies were not completely in uncharted territory. The diminutive, doe-eyed Ms. Uva had been convicted of attempted robbery several years earlier and had served a little more than a year in state prison. Her husband had been in state prison twice; he was released in May 1991 after serving nearly three years for first-degree robbery. Investigators at the time of the couple's deaths said Mr. Uva had a drug problem. Moreover, Mr. Uva, 28, may have been something of a mob buff, according to one law enforcement official who said investigators believed Mr. Uva had attended the 1992 trial of John J. Gotti. And after the couple were killed, investigators found that they had a list of mob figures' telephone and pager numbers, the official said. Yesterday, the silver-haired Mr. Pizzonia, 63, pleaded not guilty at his arraignment in United States District Court in Brooklyn. The assistant United States attorneys prosecuting the case, Winston Y. Chan and Mitra Hormozi, filed papers asking the judge to hold him without bail, and a hearing was scheduled for next week. After the arraignment, Mr. Pizzonia's lawyer, Joseph Corozzo, cited the Bonanno family's claim of responsibility in the case, noting that cooperating witnesses from that family had talked about the killings. Law enforcement officials and investigators, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, have said that they have enough evidence to prove that Mr. Pizzonia was one of two gunmen that day. Investigators were looking into the role of another Gambino figure, Ronald Trucchio, known as Ronnie One Arm for his withered right limb, who was sentenced in August to 20 years in federal prison on racketeering conspiracy charges, the officials and investigators said. A third man served as the getaway driver, the officials and investigators have said. Mr. Pizzonia's lawyer, Mr. Corozzo, also said yesterday that the prosecutors had brought the charges against his client as a "knee-jerk reaction to get anyone who was close to John Gotti after his son was victorious in court last week." Mr. Pizzonia was close to Mr. Gotti, the flamboyant mob chief who died in 2002 in federal prison, where he was serving a life sentence for murder and racketeering. His son, John A. Gotti, avoided a racketeering conviction in his own case on Tuesday when a federal jury in Manhattan returned hung verdicts on three charges against him and voted not guilty on a fourth. Colin Moynihan contributed reporting for this article.
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Re: Thomas and Rosemarie Uva
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02/09/14 03:48 PM
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She wasn't that bad looking. I would have put it right in her butt. Lol she is good enough for the butt eh. Yup def for the butt lol. Because if I were to get her pregnant she would have me watching the kid all the time while she was out robbing banks. This is a nutty story though. I think it will definitely become a movie at some point.
"My uncle(Nicky Scarfo) always told me, you have to use your brains in this thing, and you always have to use the gun." -"crazy" Phil Leonetti-
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Re: Thomas and Rosemarie Uva
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02/09/14 06:04 PM
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No shit I didn't realize that.
"My uncle(Nicky Scarfo) always told me, you have to use your brains in this thing, and you always have to use the gun." -"crazy" Phil Leonetti-
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Re: Thomas and Rosemarie Uva
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02/09/14 06:09 PM
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Lol I did see the other posts about the movie lol
"My uncle(Nicky Scarfo) always told me, you have to use your brains in this thing, and you always have to use the gun." -"crazy" Phil Leonetti-
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Re: Thomas and Rosemarie Uva
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02/09/14 06:46 PM
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She wasn't that bad looking. I would have put it right in her butt. Be careful, she appears to be growing something resembling a mashtash and those broads are a dime a dozen east of Broadway around Washington Heights I can hook you up if you like.
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