What type of gun is used for most hits? Is there a special gun/caliber? Or is it all over the board?

its hard to pin down one specific make/model, and i'm sure it has changed over the years. with that said, i think its fair to say that the .38 special revolver has probably been used in more hits/murders than most other weapons. its reliable, and doesn't expel any casings which could be used to gather forensic evidence.

.22 silenced. The bullet will ricochet inside the brain causing more damage. If you've ever heard a silenced .22 go off, rain makes more sound, lol. I think a lot of Philly guys preferred the .22.

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no doubt it has been used a fair # of times, but its a very poor choice imo for a bunch of different reasons.

#1 its a very underpowered round, and it may not even penetrate the skull, just ask john veasy. the problem is only amplified when the even weaker subsonic .22lr ammo is used with a suppressor.

#2 rimfire ammo can be very unreliable, especially in semi-auto pistols, and having a gun jam during a hit is never a good thing.

I think this would be a good choice. A good bit more stopping power than a .22 and the revolver won't jam like a semi-auto.

I agree with a .38

A .44 would be perfect though to blow someones head off.

Yeah, I see your points. 38 would be the most reliable. I think there's .22 ammo though with higher FPS. Think I saw something like that on Youtube.

The reason it's so popular among hitmen is precisely because of its lower power.It will enter the skull,but will not exit.Instead,it ricochets around the inside of the skull effectively destroying the targets brain.

As far as the jamming issue goes,if your weapons are properly cleaned and maintained the odds that they will jam are extremely low.

Tony Spilotro was suspected of using a .22 with a suppressor to kill Tamara Rand and a few others while he was Chicagos guy in Vegas.

the reliability factor has more to do with the rimfire ammo, as opposed to the firearm. .22lr ammo, even the more "premium" stuff, is notorious for being unreliable, especially is semi-automatic pistols. there are a number of reasons for this, i will try to explain.

the primers are much less reliable than any centerfire rounds, and any rimmed ammo has a much greater chance to produce a FTF(failure to feed) or an FTE(failure to eject) simply because the rim is more likely to catch or get hung up, as opposed to the bottlenecked design much more common to other semi-auto loads. these problems are amplified when low powered rounds are added to the equation. you don't run into those same problems with a bolt or lever action rifle in .22lr, as the rounds are chambered manually. revolvers are a different ballgame because of the revolving cylinder, thus no feed issues which is one of the many reasons they are renowned for their reliabilty.

there are a number of revolvers chambered for .22lr, but a suppressed revolver is extremely uncommon and expensive due to the fact that you would need a custom made threaded barrel, as well as something to muffle the sound caused by the gas escaping from the cylinder gap, and its highly unlikely that a hitman will go to all that trouble for a throwaway gun.

.22lr ammo also has the problem of often being mass produced so cheaply, and on such a huge scale, that weak rounds are common, which again will fail to cycle the action properly. the same problems exist for the subsonic loads used in suppressed weapons, as the are naturally less powerful to achieve the sub-sonic velocity needed to lesson the sound.

as for this, its basically just a common misconception that has been said so many times that people see it as fact, anybody with any knowledge of ballistics knows this is the extreme exception, rather than the rule. just because a round enters and fails to exit doesn't mean that it has been "bouncing around". all it means is that it has dumped all of its energy, and has lodged itself in either flesh or bone.

Great thread!
most prefer the 22 calibre because there are gunshot radar detectors in nyc that can detect time and location, this doesn't apply to the 22.

what do you mean 'gunshot detectors' what exactly is that?

What are you talking about? How does a gunshot detector work?

LOL. In my neighborhood they're called "people with cell phones".

hahaha good shit!

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Nyc has sound detectors which are set in areas where there is higher incidence of
shootings.

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Nicodemo used a .357 in the murder right ?

Yes he (or whoever) did use a 357 according to reports.

Gravano said to use a revolver on a hit so you won't have to risk the gun jamming. I think he said he liked 38 specials but i'd go with Nicodemo on this one. If your going to use a 38 special you might as well use a 357 for the extra pop.

You can shoot 38 specials out of most 357 revolvers but you can't shoot 357's out of a revolver that was made to fire 38 specials. So you might as well just go with the 357.

Can't beat a silenced 22 in the noise department but then you run into the question.... is the 22 a strong enough round to use on a important job. Personally i don't think it is and if you want to use a silencer equipt piece i'd go with a silenced 9mm or maybe even a silenced 45. Even a .380 auto round is better then a 22 in my opinion.

But then again you run into the problem of possible jamming with any of the auto handguns. But if noise is a concern you might have to use one since you can't use a silencer with a revolver. It just won't work because of the escaping gases between the cylinder and the barrel.

quit messing around, and go with a silenced 1911, and kill your enemies with a piece of americana not only are they very aesthetically pleasing, but the higher quality models are very reliable. alot of guys prefer the slimmer grips of these guns, you are unlikely to run into any performance issues with a 230 grain slug, and the ammo is already subsonic.

Thats very true, most 45 acp ammo is subsonic.

Back in the Cocaine Cowboy days the silencer equipt 45 cal MAC-10's seemed to be the weapon of choice with most of the Colombian hitters.

i can't think of any that isn't off the top of my head, although i'm sure there are some really hot +p loads out there, but they might cause some problems with some of the older 1911's.

Hirtenberger used to make some radical hot ammo. Their L7A1 9MM +P+ ammo was intense, probably the hottest ammo i've ever shot. Was supposed to be only used in open bolt 9mm SMG's but some guys tried to use it in normal 9mm pistols and it destroyed the gun.

.380

Ur from ny? Dont u ever leave the village? The shitty hoods they got the gunshot detectors. Work like radar. Most pjs have them now.

Wouldnt use a .22 on anything bigger than a small rodent. Unless the guy is like tied to a chair and theres no chance of him runnin out the door... 22s are just weak. Shoot a squrrel with one, they get hectic, climb a tree and die. Even with a good shot, where u paralyze them or something, they still squirm for a while. Iv never seen a squrrel hit with a 22 just, die. I honestly cant see shootinf someone with a .22. Ive seen a cow get shot in the head with a .30-06 and still get up a few feet. The body is weird. Ive got a s&w .22. Old target pistol my dad gave to me. Def not something id keep under the seat. Id like to get a glock with a real light trigger pull. Maybe 4, 4.5 in barrel. In 9mm. What is that a 20? 21? I get em mixed up. Put a laser under the barrel to weight it down when firing. Not really talking about guns to kill ppl sorry, just a rant haha