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Re: Gun Control
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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03/06/13 12:43 AM
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The mood in the chamber was anti-goverment. Several people said most gun owners would not comply with the new law. Then they should go to jail. You can't pick the laws you like. Yes, you are right in princple but I think you will find that the battle over this law is not over. Even at the Federal level things are a changing and they aren't getting anywhere near what Cumo rammed (without an lube) passed the people without respect for the normal process which occurs in making a law. By the way it sounds like you better start building a whole lot of cells. Get your tax money out to pay for them- Also the county did pased the resolution joining many others counties in kicking back this law. So what does that tell you....that maybe just maybe the people will get this law changed which they feel is wrong by so many. It is a start. a slower start then most would like, but that is the way to do it I guess.
ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
"...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824
Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: MaryCas]
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03/06/13 06:39 PM
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Hey, I have a simple solution. Guns should be in a similar category as automobiles. You must pass a test to use one, register a gun periodically, obtain insurance (so if you kill or maime someone you pay restitution), have your gun inspected, display a license. But the key is to have LAW ENFORCEMENT. That's where things breakdown.
This system would require accountability for manufacturers, sellers and users.
many states already have tests/training as mandatory, more so when ccw is concerned. as far as insurance, what does that do? if you assault/injure/kill someone, you can already be brought to civil court, so that accomplishes nothing besides adding additional costs that may prevent someone less finacially well off from being able to protect themselves. as for registration, if your whole goal is to prevent crime, how on earth does registration stop someone from going crazy? before you come back with something along the lines of "it lets the government keep track of weapons", again, ask yourself how that would stop someone from doing something horrible, regardless of the fact that the government knows what you have. registration accomplishes nothing besides making the logistics of future confiscation easier, fact. similar to an inspection, how many massacres have happened because a gun was in poor condition? modern firearms don't just "go off" like you see in the movies, so if your goal was to eliminate shootings, it would make more sense to have weapons not in working order. wishful thinking from someone unfamiliar with firearms.
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: Five_Felonies]
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03/06/13 06:42 PM
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Hey, I have a simple solution. Guns should be in a similar category as automobiles. You must pass a test to use one, register a gun periodically, obtain insurance (so if you kill or maime someone you pay restitution), have your gun inspected, display a license. But the key is to have LAW ENFORCEMENT. That's where things breakdown.
This system would require accountability for manufacturers, sellers and users.
many states already have tests/training as mandatory, more so when ccw is concerned. as far as insurance, what does that do? if you assault/injure/kill someone, you can already be brought to civil court, so that accomplishes nothing besides adding additional costs that may prevent someone less finacially well off from being able to protect themselves. as for registration, if your whole goal is to prevent crime, how on earth does registration stop someone from going crazy? before you come back with something along the lines of "it lets the government keep track of weapons", again, ask yourself how that would stop someone from doing something horrible, regardless of the fact that the government knows what you have. registration accomplishes nothing besides making the logistics of future confiscation easier, fact. similar to an inspection, how many massacres have happened because a gun was in poor condition? modern firearms don't just "go off" like you see in the movies, so if your goal was to eliminate shootings, it would make more sense to have weapons not in working order. wishful thinking from someone unfamiliar with firearms. 
ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
"...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824
Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: Mignon]
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03/06/13 09:28 PM
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The mood in the chamber was anti-goverment. Several people said most gun owners would not comply with the new law. Then they should go to jail. You can't pick the laws you like.  Don't worry Mignon, maybe we can all be on the same cellbock...  The BB unit. Three hots and a cot and maybe we could bribe the guards for some extras! I'm calling top bunk tho.
ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
"...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824
Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: Mignon]
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03/07/13 12:36 PM
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The mood in the chamber was anti-goverment. Several people said most gun owners would not comply with the new law. Then they should go to jail. You can't pick the laws you like. So, we can simply decide which laws to obey, and which laws to disregard? Nice society you're building there. Of course, given that you didn't actually post any words, perhaps I'm misinterpreting that eye roll. Please explain if that's so.
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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03/07/13 03:23 PM
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The mood in the chamber was anti-goverment. Several people said most gun owners would not comply with the new law. Then they should go to jail. You can't pick the laws you like. So, we can simply decide which laws to obey, and which laws to disregard? Nice society you're building there. Of course, given that you didn't actually post any words, perhaps I'm misinterpreting that eye roll. Please explain if that's so. Well, if they makes ones that are wrong, or do not allow people to have a say in them. I don't see a problem with people not following them, If they care/want to risk the penalty. Like speeding on the thruway, not one car is doing the speed limit, but you may be the one pulled over! What about these speed traps hey have to make $$ with fines. A place here has 4 count them 4 signs that say 40 MPH in three blocks then around a curve they drop it to 30 MPH and ten feet after the sign behind a row of hedges sits the cop cars pulling everyone over to make money. Is that fair? but it is the law....They set you up with the first signs just to tag you. You go before the judge because you feel that you have been wronged and the judge say Quilty pay the clerk $175. ($100 fine $75. court cost). Now me I just give it to a brother mason who works things out with the system.  Ever spit on the sidewalk? Cheat on your taxes? or even cross the street againt the light? Do you license you pets? Lets look back at history...a place called the Boston Tea Party!
ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
"...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824
Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: pizzaboy]
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03/07/13 03:56 PM
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Did I ever spit on the sidewalk? No, because I'm not an ill-mannered piece of trash.
You can disregard certain laws all you want, but you can also be subject to the punishment that goes with your actions. Sure, I've gotten a ticket at one of those speed traps near my home, but I went to court and I was found guilty and paid my fine. Was I happy about it? No, but I broke the law and had to take the punishment that the judge gave me. Do I watch my speed more carefully now? Damn straight I do.
If you disagree with the law, if you feel the process was not correct, then there are ways to protest them. Disobeying them is not an option, unless you want to go to court.
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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03/07/13 05:32 PM
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The mood in the chamber was anti-goverment. Several people said most gun owners would not comply with the new law. Then they should go to jail. You can't pick the laws you like. So, we can simply decide which laws to obey, and which laws to disregard? Nice society you're building there. Of course, given that you didn't actually post any words, perhaps I'm misinterpreting that eye roll. Please explain if that's so. Should I obey some laws and disregard other ones? No but saying that don't mean I have to like them either.
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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03/07/13 09:27 PM
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And that's their right - the right to assemble, something more people should take advantage of. However, I wouldn't get too excited. I read there were several thousand that showed up, but that's hardly representative of the state's population of almost 20 million. Oh, so negative you are. People do have to work you know... now if they revolt you may see them all out at once! You should follow up on what I have posted about the local people protesting... their leglislaters in their counties...research and you will see how many have voted to do just that against the safe act! It has happened and you will see it get bigger and bigger...watch....and they all vote too.
ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
"...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824
Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: Lilo]
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03/15/13 02:34 PM
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Now don't shoot the messenger (no gun pun intended). I'm just posting this nightmare of a news story to revive this thread. A Tennesssee father accidentally shot and killed his ten month old son yesterday: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/15...tm_hp_ref=crime
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: pizzaboy]
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03/15/13 02:56 PM
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He should have shot them. Looks like it would have been a freebie. agreed, but he was probably so high on adrenaline that he was incapable of making any quick decisions. nice to see that they caught the guys though. people can say whatever they want about texas, but the criminals generally get what's coming to them there!
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: pizzaboy]
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03/15/13 03:22 PM
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"you will shoot your eye out" Every shooting is now top spot on the news...keep driving home that guns are so bad for the world! And cruise ships are bad also---- But truth being...this is as bad as a parent backing over their child in the driveway! a real heart breaker. A parents worst nightmare, one I would never wish on anyone. It is one of the tuffest services to have to do.
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ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
"...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824
Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"
CAUTION: This Post has not been approved by Don Cardi.
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: pizzaboy]
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03/15/13 03:39 PM
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the story that pizzaboy posted is sad, but i can't fucking stand this "accidentally discharged" excuse that shows up almost every single time. modern firearms don't just "go off", in almost every single case the person had their finger on the trigger, but was just too embarrassed to admit it. a real simple piece of advice: keep your finger off the trigger and this kind of shit just won't happen.
certain firearms, like the 1911, may very rarely go off if dropped due to the almost free floating inertia driven firing pin, but again, that is the extreme exception and not the rule. its impossible for that to happen with any of the modern striker fired weapons, such as the many glock models which are extremely popular these days. bottom line, accidents happen all the time, and people die. the best thing that we can do is to try and learn from them.
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: Sicilian Babe]
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03/16/13 09:17 AM
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This happen not to far from us here. A real nut case. Again in an area where no one would ever think that a nut job would go off and kill complete strangers after burning down his own home. BTW- did anyone also see the young man who carjacked a lady by KNIFE POINT from the mall, took her and her 10 year old daughter out to a dark road and raped the daughter and killed the mother. While he was stabbing the mother the girl got away and got to people who helped her and put the word out getting the bastard. This happened in another good area where nothing really happens.
ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
"...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824
Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"
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