It has effects on society, on children, on morals, and it diminishes normal- marriage.

Well, I'm sure if she was talking to her kid about how gay marriage is wrong, then you wouldn't feel that she was exploiting her kid. As for filling heads with garbage, I could remember myself being subjected to the same practice, but finally when all that I put in my head later balanced each other out, I got where I am. If filling heads could work, I now must be a faithful Muslim. However, I never in my life warmed up to the ideas that I was taught in the school and I always was looking for something else, and now I'm an atheist.

If being disgusted in a form of sexual relationship is now the compass for what goes and what doesn't, then whose gut should we follow? How about two women having sex? Would that disgust men as well? How about BDSM? Regardless of the kind of sex, almost all of us don't want to picture our parents having sex. Since we're disgusted in their sexual relationship, does this repulsion make their sex life wrong? Repulsion cannot be the basis on what goes and what doesn't. Only the parties involve in the sexual act must consent to what goes and what doesn't.

I think that applies to you too. Because despite the "good arguments" that you have presented, they don't represent your reasoning for being against gay marriage. You are morally opposed based on your religious beliefs, and nothing more. There is nothing wrong with that, because I respect your religious views. Just own it.

And I hate to break it to you, but my interpretation of "seperation of church and state" seems pretty accurate. The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...." Where did I get it wrong?

Even if she had the opposite opinion on gay marriage, it would still be tasteless to use her kid like that.

And, by the way, there's no such thing as atheists. Everyone knows there's a God.



I'm not saying disgust needs to be the reason to ban gay marriage. I just don't like you guys pretending like it doesn't disgust you too. You know it does but you guys are more concerned about appearing politically correct. Not only is homosexuality degenerate behavior (like the other stuff you mentioned above) but it's also unnatural. And the government has no business officially recognizing or legitimizing it.



Of course it applies to me. I freely admit that because I don't care about appearing politically correct. Homosexuality, is abhorrent, disgusting, perverted, and just plain evil. It's why Sodom and Gomorrah was wiped out. And I've also already said a big reason...the biggest reason...I'm opposed to gay marriage is because of my religious beliefs. But it isn't the only reason. Like I said, even if you take religion completely out of the equation, I'd still be dead set against it.



"Respecting establishment of religion..." In other words, an official state church like the Church of England. Not that religious influence has no place in government or law making. That's you libs bastardizing the original meaning just like you do with abortion being justified by the "right to privacy."

Here's some upcoming entertainment the "progressives" here may be interested in...

Taste is very subjective, isn't it? I don't find it tasteless.

Apparently in your bubble everyone knows there's a god, but not here. I don't.




First of all, it really doesn't disgust me. Now say if any two or more people had sex in front of me, that would be very uncomfortable for me, but if that's a porno movie, or a supposed situation in my head, I hardly ever find anything disgusting short of a very hardcore SM relationship.

Then we get to your point about what's natural and what's not. The whole point of this debate is that one side says this is a degenerate behavior which is picked up along the way and is unnatural, and the other side says homosexuals are naturally wired to like the same sex, as are left handed persons are wired to prefer their left hand. Science is on the side of the latter argument. That's what makes it definitive for me that homosexuality is as natural as heterosexuality. To make people go against their nature, which by the way doesn't harm anyone, is downright criminal.

Let the Gays get married and do whatever the fuck they want I mean look at Ex-Govenor Corozine from Jersey he wasn't the first Gov. of NJ to get rear-ended!

Does a married couple in the US have any privileges or advantages compared to non-married couples?

Yes. There are favorable tax advantages, health benefits, retirement benefits, both public and private, and favorable estate consequences after the death of a married spouse, to name but a few.

Does it have to effect it to makes things right or wrong?
When did we have to defend Marraige BECAUSE someone else want to change the terms of things?

It's "affect", not "effect".

why do some people feel that it gives them a leg up, or makes them feel like a some online scholar, because they can correct an insignificant grammar mistake from a person who they might disagree with on a certain subject. i'm pretty sure everyone knew what was meant, so try not to be so petty.

Amazing how all these gun fanatics oppose individual rights.

what rights would those be, sir? in my opinion, correcting the grammar mistakes of someone who you disagree with doesn't make your position any stronger. the difference is, i'm not advocating that someone shouldn't be able to, i'm just pointing out how silly it seems to me.

Grabs Orange jumps suit and puts it on!

-PLEASE DON"T HIT ME WITH THE RULER AGAIN!

At least add a or a -
when you try and puff us!

ARG MATEY! Down Right Despicable!!! Wooooo WEEEE !!!

I totally agree. It's petty. I rarely make spelling errors myself, but I find it highly annoying to read someone correcting one single misspell or typo.

I have also wondered why, Oli, you only choose a select few to drop your grammatical ruler on? I come across spelling and grammatical errors constantly on here, but you choose to overlook those. For example, reading XDCX's post above, he typed "seperation". It caught my eye, did it not catch yours? There are a couple others on here, part of the "over 25,000 post crowd" that constantly misspell words and misuse grammar. You dont catch those either?

Carmela, Oli is a busy person, and thus has to be selective with grammatical corrections. Maybe you should take a more active role.

No, I'm good. People's grammatical errors don't bother me. Mod whores bother me.

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OUCH! I like these posts even better!

Oli with everything going digital I bet you miss that red pen or red marker to belittle your students on the slightest error to make them feel inferior and I've actually got to know Carmela well and would say that her spelling might be better or just as good as yours given her accolades but that's for her to say...RESPECT

Not everyone is perfect like you Carmela, and i can only presume your having a dig at me "25k Group". I struggle to spells words and i always struggled with grammar at school,sorry it's just how it is, i'm at the other end of the social spectrum. But i guess you are blind to see this..

Well DE NIRO many people struggle with all kinds of social,emotional, and physical disabilities but I don't see them singling out a women who speaks her mind and is verbally harassed for misspelling a word. I know your bored and so am I but geez correcting someone grammar or spelling on here fuggerabouit

talk about missing the boat....
Gee how many posts do I have?

Not sure how this has been turned back onto me, i was just sticking up for myself as one person was having a dig at the grammer of a certain person over 25K posts

You clearly missed my point. I don't care about your social inadequacies, academic inadequacies, or what have you. Since it was brought up in here, I finally decided to ask something that's been on my mind for a long time now; and that's why does Oli choose to point out grammatical errors to certain members and not others. Is it for the purpose of belittling/provoking/baiting particular people?