Strange they use an East-African language. I thought African-Americans primarily descended from a mixture of West Africans with some East African admixture.

You guys probably have heard about this. The LA bank robbery where the robbers were throwing cash out of the car in order to get people to block the roads up. Turns out the robbers were members of the rolling 40s crips. http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/09/1...police-pursuit/

LOL. That's pretty clever even though it didn't work.

theres been alot of convictions and indictments against latino gangmembers recently for hate crimes against blacks. Heres a story where its the other way round. Crip Andre Copeland was involved with 5 shooting 2 of them being fatalities.

1 question to anyone that knows, what roles are the asians and other pacific isl/samoan gangs play in LAs gang landscape?


Gang member’s fate pleases L.B. officials
Crime: Conviction of Crip Andre Copeland comes on heels of latest violence.
By Wendy Thomas Russell
Staff writer Long Beach Press Telegram
LONG BEACH .Oct. 22, 3003- As Long Beach police continued to hunt for the man who gunned down a Marine corporal and his friend over the weekend, authorities on Wednesday quietly celebrated the conviction of Andre Copeland, a gang member responsible for two murders and a string of shootings in North Long Beach last summer.
Copeland, 19, was found guilty of two counts of murder, six counts of attempted murder and five counts of assault with a firearm Tuesday in connection with five shootings between May and July 2002. A prosecutor called Copeland “Public Enemy No. 1 in Long Beach’ and, earlier this year, a Long Beach judge equated him to a serial killer.
“He was responsible for a lot,’ Long Beach Police Detective Bob Erickson said Wednesday. “Had he not been arrested and taken off the streets, I don’t think what he was doing would have stopped. Between then and now, who knows what would have happened?’
Certainly, Copeland’s arrest and conviction were bright spots in the LBPD’s ongoing battle against local gangs. Last summer saw a spate of gang-related shootings, assaults and murders, primarily in the north and central areas of Long Beach.
But the violence continues. Early Sunday morning, Marine Cpl. Sok Khak Ung and his friend Vouthy Tho were shot to death as they attended a barbecue near Seventh Street and Orange Avenue in Central Long Beach. Ung had recently returned from the war in Iraq, where he was injured and awarded the Purple Heart.
Neither man was involved in gangs, but the barbecue at Ung’s family’s home was in the middle of Hispanic gang territory, and police suspect a gang member may be responsible.
Similarly, Copeland’s murder victims Luciano Ramirez and Paul Griego Jr. were simply at the wrong places at the wrong times, authorities said. Ramirez, 18, was attending a Lakewood High School graduation party May 31, 2002, in the 5800 block of Orange Avenue when Copeland opened fire on him and four of his friends. Griego, 17, was buying a used car in the 6000 block of Cherry Avenue July 6, 2002, when Copeland shot him and the car’s owner.
Coincidentally, Griego and Copeland both Long Beach residents shared the same birthday: July 19, 1984.
Copeland, a member of a Crips gang, chose many of his targets based on their skin color, Deputy District Attorney Ken Lynch said. Most of Copeland’s victims were Hispanic, Lynch said, and Crips gangs notoriously oppose Hispanic gangs.
The last of Copeland’s shooting victims Misael Espinoza was shot in the head in the 200 block of Norton Street while walking on the sidewalk. Espinoza lost an eye in the attack, and his head was left deformed, Lynch said, but he lived to identify his attacker in court.
Copeland was 17 when he was arrested. He was tried as an adult, however, and now faces a maximum sentence of life in prison without parole when he is sentenced Nov. 13 by Long Beach Superior Court Judge Charles Shel

L.A. Jail Brawl Leaves Seven Injured As Inmates Fight Along Racial Lines


Posted: April 3, 2013

An L.A. jail brawl left several injured after inmates separated along racial lines and fought.

The brawl took place Tuesday afternoon, breaking out at the Twin Towers Jail in Los Angeles. The racially charged fight raged on for a few minutes before deputies were finally able to regain control. They used a barrage of pepper spray and sting balls to stop inmates from fighting.


There were differing reports of the number injured, but it was reported that four were taken to the hospital after the brawl between Latino and black inmates.

“We cannot say how many of the inmates were exactly involved, but 62 were in the area at the time,” Sheriff’s spokesman Steve Whitmore said.

Whitmore added that the incident is under investigation, and there will likely be charges for the inmates who fought.

Los Angeles County has the largest county jail system in the world, housing close to 19,000 inmates each day.

Authorities said the L.A. jail brawl is not all that uncommon of an occurrence. Disturbances there and at the neighboring Men’s Central Jail are common, but officials said multi-inmate brawls occur less frequently.

For jail officials, the brawls have become an unfortunate reality as tension rises among inmates, who are separated by racial groups.

“This is something that does occur throughout our jail system from time to time,” said Sheriff’s spokesman Steve Whitmore said, as quoted by the L.A. Times. “People in our jails are under a lot of tension … and it does regrettably happen.”

Those fights aren’t always just among inmates. In 2011, a fight broke out among Men’s Central jail employees at a Christmas party in Los Angeles. Afterward jail officials conducted a months-long investigation and fired seven deputies.

Twin Towers Correctional Facility is known as the jail where Paris Hilton served time in 2007.

Deputies noted that they’re still investigating the cause of the L.A. jail brawl.


Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/601551/l-a-jail...0fFVlGG6wcR5.99

VS. There should be some video games where you can fight the other ethnic gangs if there isn't already I'm sure someone would know it could start out in Eastharlem

No. The last two white people would get killed quick

this article goes into the origins of the warring gangs, specifically east coast crips and florencia 13.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-firestone18oct18,0,6500817.story?page=1

By the way, the East Coast and Rollin 60s are the oldest and original crip sets. East Coast was originally started by Raymond Washington and Rollin 60s by Tookie.

article on the rolling 60s.


Rollin 60s give unique window into gang culture

By Beth Barrett, Staff Writer
The Rollin 60 Neighborhood Crips is the largest black criminal street gang in the City of Los Angeles with over 1,600 active members - the size of an Army brigade.

A dissection of its operations by the LAPD, which was obtained by the Daily News, provides a unique window into the city's gang culture as compiled through oral histories, gang statistics and other intelligence.

In 1976, a faction of the city's original crip gang, Westside Crips formed as the Rollin 60 Crips.

"There are different theories on how the name was derived and at the time many of the gangs were named after the streets within their respective neighborhoods," the overview says.

One theory was that 60th Street "rolled" through the entire neighborhood, which today extends 27 blocks south from 48th Street to 75th Street, and west from Western Avenue to Overhill Drive.

The gang was the first to specialize in take-over bank robberies, and with cash in hand began calling itself the "Rich Rollin 60s." Drug trafficking supplemented the robberies, while gang members engaged in homicides, assaults with deadly weapons, rapes, carjackings, vandalism and general intimidation of the community.

Young members were recruited out of schools, particularly Westchester and Crenshaw high schools.

Defined as a criminal street gang under the Street Terrorism Enforcement and Provisions Act (STEP), the gang marks its territory with graffiti, while members identify themselves through tattoos and clothing. The grafitti depicts feuds, as well as the names of active memebers, also known as "roll call," to announce who's "putting in work for the neighborhood." Common Rollin 60's tags include: RSC, RSNC, R60's, NHC 60's, Rich Rollin 60's, among others.

Wearing any Seattle Mariners' sporting gear can be a sign of gang affiliation because of the trademark logo's large "S." Gang members also wear Chicago White Sox clothing for the "S." North Carolina powder blue sports attire also is worn, with the NC standing for "neighborhood crip." New York Yankee clothing also is worn with the "N" standing for neighborhood.

The gang has spread throughout the country but the 77th Street Division in South Los Angeles is its stronghold with several known hangouts where they congregate. It is made up of three factions: Avenues, Fronthood and Overhill.

The 60s call themselves a neighborhood "O's" gang, and keep alliance with other "O's," which includes the Rollin 40's and Rollin 90's NHCs.

According to the history, the neighborhood nomenclature came out of a 1983 party where several Rollin 60's noted to some Rollin 90's that both names ended in "0" and suggested they should unite. The alliance has since expanded to other gangs.

"The 60's are mortal enemies with all Blood gangs and all 'Gangster crip (GC)' factions," the LAPD overview says. One of the biggest feuds is between the 60's and the Inglewood blood gangs - particularly the Inglewood Family Gangster Bloods (IFGB), Neighborhood Pirus (Swahili for blood), and the Crenshaw Mafia.

Rollin 60's also have feuds with Van Ness Gangster bloods (VNG), and the 62 Brims (six deuce Brims), where their name derives from 62nd Street.

The 60's also fight with the 83rd Gangster Crips - "infamously known to have started the 1992 Los Angeles riots," the history says.

The 60s also fight with all Hoover factions, a former Crips affiliate, which has denounced both the crips and bloods in favor of calling themselves the Hoover Criminals. The Hoovers wear orange, and sport "HCG" tattoos, standing for Hoover Criminal Gangster.
http://lang.dailynews.com/socal/gangs/articles/dnp5_culture.asp

Only a few years ago they wanted to segregate inmates by race, but were overruled. Judges and politicians don't have to deal with realities of trying to manage inmates. I don't like the tactic of 23 hour a day lockdowns as punishment, but do think inmates being isolated from each other as much a possible is tactic they need to install. I saw a documentary on Soviet prison. They don't let any inmates interact, they said it leads to trouble. They are correct.

Inmates should get to associate with each other in groups only as a reward for behaving. Otherwise, no contact with each other till they learn to act human.

Maybe in some Black Dolphin prison, but other prisons aren't like that.

The oneI saw in documentary was in some totally isolated region, nothing but snow. German Shepherd dogs were with every officer. It was just inmates and officers, no town nearby.

Who cares? I would say for them its just as important as eme usiing nauat language. Or certain white groups writing in runes ( sorry don't kno if I spelled it right)

In sub-sahara region of Africa Swahili along with English and French are the 3 most spoken languages, along with hundreds of local languages.

actually I've met 2 . One was inthe 90s the other one I met was in the early 2000s . I don't know how it is now with F13 but back. When I met those dudes they were associated with him altho one guy was tryna clean up thougth