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Re: Gun Control [Re: pizzaboy] #709962
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
"There once was a deputy called Fife, who carried a gun and a knife. The gun was all dusty, the knife was all rusty, 'cause he never caught a crook in his life."

---Opie Taylor


After a thorough investigation of this incident including spectroscopic analysis of the chalk used and remnant DNA thereupon, it was determined that Opie was not the guilty party: he had not yet learned to write.


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Re: Gun Control [Re: olivant] #709963
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Originally Posted By: olivant
he had not yet learned to write.

I remember, Oli.

Andy: "And for another thing, he ain't learned how to right yet." lol

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Re: Gun Control [Re: pizzaboy] #710629
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The US Supreme Court's refusal to hear arguments and rule on a challenge to a provision of New York State's firearm possession statute is significant (possession outside the home). One reason it is so is because the Court usually abhors differing rulings by the Nation's federal circuit courts by trying to resolve them into one definitive ruling. Several circuit courts have ruled differently on gun possession outside the home.


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Re: Gun Control [Re: olivant] #710655
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Re: Gun Control [Re: pizzaboy] #711265
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Well all the gun nuts can rejoice. Al Queada members can still buy guns on the internet thanks to the gutless Senate.


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Re: Gun Control [Re: pizzaboy] #711286
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well, common sense prevailed, and enough people where smart enough to see through all of the smoke and mirrors. case in point: all the people claiming anyone can buy a weapon online without a backround check, false. i've tried to explain this here before, but certain people would rather just listen to the same talking points as opposed to doing a bit of research on their own.

you CANNOT buy a weapon online either through a manufactuer or from a private party without going through an ffl dealer, such as is the case on gunbroker and similar websites. this process requires a backround check, and thats a fact. on top of all that, whatever firearm you choose has to be in compliance with your existing state laws. if you are still convinced that you can have a firearm shipped to your house with nothing more than a credit card, go ahead and try.

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Re: Gun Control [Re: Five_Felonies] #711316
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A member of al queada can buy a gun at a gun show with no background check. The cowards in the Senate and the NRA need to know one thing. Their days are numbered.

I can't wait to watch Mitch McConnell's concession speech in 2014.


"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"

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Re: Gun Control [Re: olivant] #711317
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Originally Posted By: olivant
The US Supreme Court's refusal to hear arguments and rule on a challenge to a provision of New York State's firearm possession statute is significant (possession outside the home). One reason it is so is because the Court usually abhors differing rulings by the Nation's federal circuit courts by trying to resolve them into one definitive ruling. Several circuit courts have ruled differently on gun possession outside the home.


Oli you are right on this point in general, however I get the sense this Court wants to stay away from certain issues. My guess is they will be kicking the can down the road on the whole gay marriage thing, and probably the gun thing as well.


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Re: Gun Control [Re: Five_Felonies] #711318
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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
well, common sense prevailed

For now, FF. But when 85-90% of the American public polled are against you, it's just a matter of time. And there's still the hurdles at the state level to consider. Cuomo has made a lot of people very unhappy here in New York.


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Re: Gun Control [Re: pizzaboy] #711321
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
well, common sense prevailed

For now, FF. But when 85-90% of the American public polled are against you, it's just a matter of time. And there's still the hurdles at the state level to consider. Cuomo has made a lot of people very unhappy here in New York.


And the Supremes backed him up.


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Re: Gun Control [Re: dontomasso] #711323
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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
well, common sense prevailed

For now, FF. But when 85-90% of the American public polled are against you, it's just a matter of time. And there's still the hurdles at the state level to consider. Cuomo has made a lot of people very unhappy here in New York.


And the Supremes backed him up.

Exactly. Gun laws will never be the same here in New York. Whether that affects the way other states act in the future remains to be seen.


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Re: Gun Control [Re: pizzaboy] #711329
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where does this 90% come from? i realize its a poll, but how many people were questioned, and from what areas? i don't ever put much stock in these types of polls, no matter what the issue, because you can ask almost whatever question you want and get the results that you are looking for, especially if only a small fraction of the population is questioned.

as far as the "gun show loophole", again, it relies on people being ill-informed and just defaulting to whatever narrative the media presents to them. how many here have actually ever been to a gun show? judging by the info being presented, i'm guessing not many.

gun shows vary state by state, but no matter which state you attend a show in the format is pretty much the same. its not some flea market of private sellers, but rather booths set up by manufactures and retailers, who are REQUIRED to have an ffl, and a backround check is required for all sales. again, don't take my word for it, look it up. private sales can be made, but they are between private sellers, no different than any other transaction in a state where it is legal. most shows strongly discourage these sales, and i know that in some states, checks are done at a booth, and the recipient of the check is given a bacelet, verifying that he went through the check. not foolproof, but a world away from the views of some who just assume its as easy as buying a bag of dog food.


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Re: Gun Control [Re: pizzaboy] #711335
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They have those shows all the time in the surrounding Phila burbs


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Re: Gun Control [Re: Five_Felonies] #711336
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Five felonies, its the same poll that said Obama would beat Romney in a cake walk. You know, the one righties never believe. Its called the reality based poll.


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Re: Gun Control [Re: dontomasso] #711338
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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
its the same poll that said Obama would beat Romney in a cake walk. You know, the one righties never believe. Its called the reality based poll.

lol lol

That may be the wittiest thing ever written by an ACLU lawyer tongue grin.


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Re: Gun Control [Re: dontomasso] #711343
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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Five felonies, its the same poll that said Obama would beat Romney in a cake walk. You know, the one righties never believe. Its called the reality based poll.

well, considering i hate both of these guys, i guess trying to lump me into the "right wing" category does nothing for me. again, how many people were questioned, and where were they from? i won't put much stock into any poll, unless it draws from an overwhelming % of the population, not a small group. all of the gun owners i know were not in favor of any of this garbage, and for those of you who always cry about the nra, there are more than enough groups with more than enough money on the other side as well.


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Re: Gun Control [Re: Five_Felonies] #711347
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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Five felonies, its the same poll that said Obama would beat Romney in a cake walk. You know, the one righties never believe. Its called the reality based poll.

well, considering i hate both of these guys

Preach, West Virginia, preach!

Fuck them all, donkeys AND elephants!


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Re: Gun Control [Re: pizzaboy] #711380
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Fuck them all, donkeys AND elephants!


Spoken like a liberal who eventually is going to root for bestiality. rolleyes

j/k. lol


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Re: Gun Control [Re: afsaneh77] #711423
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Originally Posted By: afsaneh77
Spoken like a liberal who eventually is going to root for bestiality.

A man's gotta relax, Afs.

Did you fuck that sheep? Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............


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Re: Gun Control [Re: pizzaboy] #711537
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This is not over by a long shot. You can't Blame the NRA.

Charley Reese summed it up very well ~

They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes. ~


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If a private party is making an online/interstate transaction he or she is supposed to route it through a FFL, who will conduct the required background check. Unsurprisingly it seems that some apparently unknown percentage of buyers/sellers are ignoring that requirement.

Online Gun Transactions
Quote:
The want ads posted by the anonymous buyer on Armslist.com, a sprawling free classified ads Web site for guns, telegraphed urgency.

Feb. 20: “Got 250 cash for a good handgun something.reliable.”
Feb. 27: “I got 200 250 cashlooking for a good handgun please let me know what u got.”
Feb. 28: “Looking to buy some 9 mm ammo and not at a crazy price.”

The intentions and background of the prospective buyer were hidden, as is customary on such sites. The person posting these ads, however, left a phone number, enabling The New York Times to trace them to their source: Omar Roman-Martinez, 29, of Colorado Springs, who has a pair of felony convictions for burglary and another for motor vehicle theft, as well as a misdemeanor domestic violence conviction — all of which bar him from having guns. Yet he was so determined he even offered to trade a tablet computer or a vintage Pepsi machine for firearms.

When questioned in a telephone interview, Mr. Roman-Martinez said he ultimately decided not to buy a weapon. He also insisted that a 9-millimeter handgun he posted for sale on the Web site last month belonged to someone else.

“I’m a felon,” he said. “I can’t possess firearms.”....


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Re: Gun Control [Re: Lilo] #712407
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This is how silly the lawmakers are getting in their attack on guns and groups like the NRA.

Conn. senator wants Fox to pull plug on NRA race

FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) — A U.S. senator from Connecticut has sent a letter to media mogul Rupert Murdoch asking that Fox network not broadcast Saturday night's NASCAR Sprint Cup race sponsored by the National Rifle Association.

Democratic Sen. Chris Murphy wrote to the News Corp. chief that the race is taking place during Senate consideration of legislation to reduce gun violence in the wake of the elementary school shootings last December in Newtown, Conn. Murphy said the race will give national attention ``to an organization that has been the face of one side of this heated debate.''

Fox officials declined comment Thursday. The NRA 500 from Texas Motor Speedway will be broadcast as scheduled.

link to entire story:

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/...11/NASCAR-NRA/


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Re: Gun Control [Re: pizzaboy] #712413
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^^^heh! i don't even like nascar, but i'm going to leave the tv on just to thumb my nose at all of the "rational debate, reasonable restriction crowd!" get over it, you guys lost, and you will lose even bigger in 2014! kiss this silly debate goodbye on the federal level for a long time!

A FEW OF THE LIKELY SENATE SEATS TO CHANGE HANDS...

-todd uball of new mexico. new mexico is potentially a transition state and they are a swing state but they are also a gun friendly state. He got in on the obama bounce and hes going to have a fight in 2014.

-jeff merkley of oregon - oregon is a very gun friendly state despite being a left coast. They actually have state constitutional law that prohibits the cities from making more strict gun laws than the state does. He had a close election in 08 even with the obama bounce he only got in on a few points.

-tim johnson of south dakota is retiring - that seat will likely go GOP.

-jay rockefeller is retiring from west virginia - that will be a toss up seat.

-mary landreiu of louisiana is up - she's in a little better position then the others I have listed as she has been in the senate before 08 but she is in a gun friendly state. She will have a tough fight next year to keep her seat.

-carl levin of michigan is retiring - that will likely go GOP. The reality is Michigan is turning from a blue state to a red state with the population drain from detroit.

-al franken - no idea how that one will play out. he's up and he got in on a total squeaker in 08 with recounts and shit down to the wire.

-max baucus is retiring from montana - he himself is very popular there but its a ripe state for the GOP to come in now that he is leaving. Will be a toss up though because he himself is very popular. He voted against the gun legislation this year BTW.

-mark beigch of alaska. he came down to the wire in 08 and is up next year. He voted against the gun legislation as well hoping to keep his seat but its alaska so he could lose it anyway.

-also mark pryor of arkansas, very gun friendly state.


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Hey Sen. Chris Murphy, If you don't want to watch the race then change the channel DUH!!


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EVERY CITIZEN ON THE PLANET HAS A RIGHT TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.ANY GOVERNMENT HAS NO RIGHT TO TAKE GUNS AWAY FROM ANYONE.WHY SHOULD ONLY THE BAD GUYS HAVE GUNS.

ALL THESE ANTI GUN PEOPLE WILL BE SINGING A DIFFERANT TUNE IF THERE HOUSE GETS BROKEN INTO AND THEIR CHILDREN GET HURT AND THEY DONT HAVE A GUN ON HAND TO PROTECT THERE FAMILY

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Original geschrieben von: tiger84
EVERY CITIZEN ON THE PLANET ...

Do you think you make your point stronger by typing in captal letters?

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Originally Posted By: Danito
Originally Posted By: tiger84
EVERY CITIZEN ON THE PLANET ...

Do you think you make your point stronger by typing in captal letters?


No he thinks he makes his point stronger by horrid grammar.


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tiger 84 is right though.


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Originally Posted By: Danito




Thanks for this, that was hilarious! Oliver is one of the few Brits that went to the US that i actually miss.

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