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Re: Stand your ground law!
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04/12/13 11:22 AM
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Zimmerman should walk if we werent such a nation full of apologetic pussys we would never had a trial.
Personally, this is a perfect example why to keep a throw down peice in ur house or car. Some guy is broken in ur house, some guy is on ur property, or going thru ur car, some guy spills a drink on ur girlfriend..... Throw down! Answer for all ur problems! Right. After all we all know that anyone wearing a hoodie is automatically guilty of something. Especially if he's walking around BWH (Black With Hoodie).
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Re: Stand your ground law!
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The only person who deserves blame is Zimmmerman. Reluctantly I agree with FS on one point, namely the role of the media in legal proceedings. What these windbags don't get is what a jury sees and hears in a courtroom is regulated by the Rules of Evidence, and often the discretion of the trial judge who interprets these rules. Juries don't hear all the wild speculation in which the media engages, and accordingly people are apt to judge defendants based on what they see on television rather than what goes on in the courtroom. Having watched a lot of the Casey Anthony trial, I was not as surprised of the verdict as most. Do I think she did it? Sure. Does that opinion anount to a hill of beans? No.
IMHO the prosecution dropped the ball big time in that case, and based on what was presented to the jury, there was plenty of room for "reasonable doubt." LIKE O.J. and others, the media convicted these people and the general population was shocked when the media was wrong.
In this Zimmerman case, I think he is guilty, but again I am not going to be on that jury and I have no idea what will come into evidence.
That said I think the "stand your ground" law is one of the stupidest pieces of legislation ever passed. Of course based on what I am seeing from republican legislatures around the country this year, it will be surpassed by sstupidity sooner than later.
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Re: Stand your ground law!
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I'm pretty sure I can write what I think, as long as I obey the rules. I don't have to save anything.
I don't believe in painting any group with a brush. Trayvon Martin was walking from the store to his home with nothing in his pockets but a bag of Skittles and, I believe, a Snapple. He wasn't caught trying to break into someone's home or automobile, he was walking on a public street. He was unarmed.
His past? Was he wearing a sign that talked about his past? How does his past, no matter what it was, have any bearing on that night?? Was Mr. Zimmerman aware of his past? Did Mr. Zimmerman know him? Or did Mr. Zimmerman, a cop-hero-wannabe with a bit of a past of his own, decide to take matters into his own hands???
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Re: Stand your ground law!
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He was a rent-a-cop he had no authority to shoot that boy. I don't know all the details of the case but Zimmerman seems like a punk and got scared when the kid told him to fuck-off, then this fucking guy shoots him WTF. As a rent-a-cop he should have called the law and reported it, not confronted him. I bet if it was a really big white guy with tats he would've called the law, I hope they throw the fucking book a this coward and that's just what he is PLAIN AND SIMPLE a COWARD!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sorry for the rant and if I offended anybody.
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Re: Stand your ground law!
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I don't understand, your riding with Zimmerman? Makes no difference to me just wondering. No! Niether. Like I said I don't own a gun. I'm not against guns either! I'm riding with neither! I wasn't there so I can't say what really happened! I will say if we think there will be an impartial jury there fooling themselves
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Re: Stand your ground law!
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He was a rent-a-cop he had no authority to shoot that boy. I don't know all the details of the case but Zimmerman seems like a punk and got scared when the kid told him to fuck-off, then this fucking guy shoots him WTF. As a rent-a-cop he should have called the law and reported it, not confronted him. I bet if it was a really big white guy with tats he would've called the law, I hope they throw the fucking book a this coward and that's just what he is PLAIN AND SIMPLE a COWARD!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sorry for the rant and if I offended anybody. If that's what you want! However if they throw the book at Zimmerman he will walk!
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Re: Stand your ground law!
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It really is sad, they just meet at the wrong time in there lives!
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Re: Stand your ground law!
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And if Trayvon Martin had killed Zimmerman, should he have been arrested? Of course he should have. That's why we have a legal system in this country.
You're wrong. Constitutional arrest is a function of probable cause only. I was guessing that an armed man who was beaten to death (which is what would have happened if Martin had killed Zimmerman) would be probable cause for an arrest.
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