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Re: was lucky a rat ???
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Re: was lucky a rat ???
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There is also reason to believe that the future underworld czar passed information to federal agents during a beating that left him permanently scarred
When was that? Was he beaten when he already was a boss? I think he was attacked by Maranzanos ppl,not federal agents...and no he wasnt the boss at that time
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Re: was lucky a rat ???
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There is also reason to believe that the future underworld czar passed information to federal agents during a beating that left him permanently scarred
When was that? Was he beaten when he already was a boss? I think he was attacked by Maranzanos ppl,not federal agents...and no he wasnt the boss at that time By the way, were there any Cosa Nostra bosses beaten in custody by law enforcement in American history? It's off-topic here, but I don't know if this question is worthy of a separate topic.
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Re: was lucky a rat ???
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There is also reason to believe that the future underworld czar passed information to federal agents during a beating that left him permanently scarred
When was that? Was he beaten when he already was a boss? I think he was attacked by Maranzanos ppl,not federal agents...and no he wasnt the boss at that time By the way, were there any Cosa Nostra bosses beaten in custody by law enforcement in American history? It's off-topic here, but I don't know if this question is worthy of a separate topic. Dont have any proof for this statement but i bet the beatin may have started when the C.I.A. was created....
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Re: was lucky a rat ???
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Re: was lucky a rat ???
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There is also reason to believe that the future underworld czar passed information to federal agents during a beating that left him permanently scarred
When was that? Was he beaten when he already was a boss? I think he was attacked by Maranzanos ppl,not federal agents...and no he wasnt the boss at that time By the way, were there any Cosa Nostra bosses beaten in custody by law enforcement in American history? It's off-topic here, but I don't know if this question is worthy of a separate topic. I got the shit kicked out of me one time for fucking with some Bubba redneck cops in rural Georgia. The Georgia in the United States...not the one near Russia.
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Re: was lucky a rat ???
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Luciano was a selfish and greedy man.  Really?!?!? This guy obviously doesn't know much about Lucky Even if he was, from what history tells us he was the one that wanted to divide profits from all the rackets although I believe he always stiffed the prostitutes
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Re: was lucky a rat ???
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Luciano was a selfish and greedy man.  Really?!?!? This guy obviously doesn't know much about Lucky Even if he was, from what history tells us he was the one that wanted to divide profits from all the rackets although I believe he always stiffed the prostitutes He was also the driving force behind removing the "boss of all bosses" title. If he was greedy like TommyGambino said, he would've taken that title. He had the backing to do that, yet he didn't and formed the commission.
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Re: was lucky a rat ???
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Of course he was. He ratted on a bunch of Jewish guys in his younger years. But his fans like to brush it under the carpet, Luciano was a selfish and greedy man.
People act like he's some LCN god, when in reality he's the complete opposite IMO, he betrayed everything traditional about the organization. He ratted on which Jewish guys? In every report, it is said he gave up a stash of heroin, but no other people. His testimony in his trial is where story originates, and in it, you can find out he gave up no one. In a youtube docu (take that as reliable as you want, it's said that the he "ratted on some jewish guys" according to narrator. I agree though, he wasn't a rat and never would have risen to the rank he was if that incident was considered "ratting" because everybody would know by then...
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Re: was lucky a rat ???
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There is also reason to believe that the future underworld czar passed information to federal agents during a beating that left him permanently scarred
When was that? Was he beaten when he already was a boss? I think he was attacked by Maranzanos ppl,not federal agents...and no he wasnt the boss at that time Probably a myth, about Maranzano. I read Luciano was brutally beaten by NYPD for not giving up whereabouts of Jack legs Diamond, who was hiding in an apt owned by Luciano.
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Re: was lucky a rat ???
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You're correct, ht2. In The Last Testament of Lucky Luciano he made the claim that Maranzano had him strung up and beaten. Only problem is that that book is a fraud and contradicts known reliable information. I wrote a lengthy article obliterating that book in Informer magazine last year. As for who he ratted on in 1926, the Bureau of Narcotics reported that it was a friend of his named Steve Armone, who was later a capo in the Gambino Family.
Not about Lucky but the same topic, Carlo Gambino, as a boss, reportedly told the police (maybe through one of his men) about a thief or a burglar. I read this many years ago and I think the source was Don Carlo: Boss of Bosses by Paul Meskil. If I recall correctly it was basically away to get rid of an annoyance and the guy was sent to prison.
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Re: was lucky a rat ???
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You're correct, ht2. In The Last Testament of Lucky Luciano he made the claim that Maranzano had him strung up and beaten. Only problem is that that book is a fraud and contradicts known reliable information. I wrote a lengthy article obliterating that book in Informer magazine last year. As for who he ratted on in 1926, the Bureau of Narcotics reported that it was a friend of his named Steve Armone, who was later a capo in the Gambino Family. Yep, this is where I read it, in April 2012 issue.
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Re: was lucky a rat ???
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In The Last Testament of Lucky Luciano he made the claim that Maranzano had him strung up and beaten. Only problem is that that book is a fraud and contradicts known reliable information. So youre sayin that in 1929 Lucky survived a gangland ride with NYPD in which he was beaten, stabbed repeatedly with an ice pick,slashed throat and thrown from a car and left for dead?Or this didnt happend at all?
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Mongol General: Conan, what is best in life?
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