Yes you are correct.

Pizzaboy,

If you have time take your Dad on the tour of Wrigley. You learn a lot of history and get to tour the whole park. It is reasonable and definitely worth it.

1070 w adison. In case you didnt watch blued brothers

Do you have any idea how many people wouldve gone down If he was a snitch I mean come on that guy knows a lot. Fellas from all over wouldve been fucked In the ass by now East Coast and West Coast. JBD Is no snitch It's just a stupid fuckin rumor to label him a stoolie.

4 Street crews. Elmwood Park, Grand Ave., Cicero & 26th St. 36 to 40 made men, 110 to 120 soldiers, several hundred associates. down about 1/3 to 40% from 25 years ago. Elmwood Park is the Dominant Crew. The Three other Crews are partnered with them in one way or another. John DiFronzo is the Senior Advisor. Marco D'Amico would be more like the Day to Day Boss. Solly D., Jimmy Inendino, Joey Andriacchi are more in the background. Solly D.(Cicero), Jimmy (26thSt.) Joey A. (Gand Ave.) If anyone thinks that the Outfit is small and weak and that Elmwood Park doesn't want to be involved anymore, then they have accomplished their goal.

does the outfit have any modern day connections/rackets/interaction with the families in nyc, philly, new england?

Yes. Chicago has always had a relationship with the powerful Genovese Family in New York regarding Union activity. In fact one of the made men who was the personal underboss to Joey Lombardo in the Grand Ave. Crew years ago was a guy named 'Mooch' Eboli. He was related to Tommy Eboli from the Genovese Group. I BELIEVE THE RELATIONSHIP STILL EXISTS TODAY. Also, The Genovese Family would occasionally reach out to Chicago about Las Vegas. Chicago had problems and disliked the Bonanno Family yers ago. The Genovese people liked Chicago better than the Bonnano's. Years ago, the 3 best organized and most powerful mafisa groups in the Country were The Genovese Family, Gambino Family & The Chicago Outfit, in my humble opinion based upon dialogue in Chicago.

elmwood more like peckerwood

"We have 28 made members of the Chicago Outfit roaming in the Chicagoland area. We have over 100 associates of the Chicago Outfit." - Robert Grant, FBI
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=5681103


Mallul estimates the Outfit has about 30 "made" members and a little more than 100 associates.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2007-09-30/news/0709300075_1_chicago-outfit-mob-boss-calabrese


The Chicago mob once had as many as seven street crews, but is down to two or three, Rice said.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-...onspiracy-trial

Here we go again...............

What does peckerwood mean? Some kind of smart ass ignorant joke? I was warned that there are some smart ass ignorant New York loud mouth people on this blog who immediately start name calling the minute you try to educate them on something their New York mind can't comprehend about the differences between the Structure of Chicago and New York and the different terminologies used. If it makes every body happy. Ivy and anyone else id right . The New York 5 Families are extremely powerful and are way bigger than the little weak Outfit who have only 10 made members. You're right. No problem

Tell me about it.



Here's the next stage we've seen: somebody doesn't buy the misinformation about the Outfit and the Chicago poster gets defensive.

It's debatable whether the structure is significantly different between Chicago and the other LCN families today. And there's little to no evidence of the terminologies being different.

In any event, the latest membership and associate estimates are what they are. No need to pad the numbers.

I objected to the name calling. May I call you Ivy Prick? Is that okay? Would you like me to address you in this way?

Shorehead called you peckerwood, which he shouldn't have. I didn't call you that. My disagreement with you is about the Outfit.

Believe me I've tried. Others did as well. But it didn't help...

Oh, that's right. I'm the problem. Others can come here, posting all types of misinformation, but I'm the problem.

Here it is one more time and then I don't want to debate it with you. 1) I live in Elmwood Park, you don't. 2) My uncle whose name is Joe Lombardi and is now retired, was a soldier in the Elmwood Park crew for 40 years. 3) Your only source of information is the F.B.I. report which is not always 100% accurate. 4) If they were wrong about Joe Ferriola being the Top Boss in the Outfit back in 1986, they could be at least a little off about other things. 5) Chicago is structured differently than New York. soldiers in New York are made guys. Soldiers in Chicago are not made guys. Soldiers in Chicago are not associates. Associates are all the people who are connected to the Outfit but do not belong to the Street Crews. 6) Being a made guy in Chicago would practically be equal to being a captain in New York. 7) If you add up the number of made guys, soldiers who work for them, and all the Outfit connected associates, the number would easily equal the Colombos. 8)Size isn't everything. Years ago the Black Street gangs outnumbered the Mafia, but the Mafia had much more power. 9) The F.B.I. is not going to go out of their way to give a detailed explanation of the differences & terminology between New York & Chicago. Some of them don't even understand the difference. They only care about getting convictions. 10) If you do not understand the differences in Structure because the Feds haven't spelled it out for you in detail, then there is nothing more to talk about on the size or real power of The Outfit. Thank You.

Anything not on wiki or FBI report is fiction- Ivy

You're the one who always starts to debate with these guys and adding fuel to the fire. After witnessing these debates for a long time it becomes repetative and annoying and then it doesn't really matter anymore who's right or wrong...

I only disagree on number six. There are ny captains, plenty of them that have more power and money than any boss in chicago. A change in terms aside, soldier, made guy, whatever. Guys like andy gerardo and tino f had more pull in unions, on the street, and left behind more money than some pussy ass rat like difronzo

I agree Sonny.

I know that for some of you New York guys, Any of the 5 Families has to have a bigger penis than Chicago or you get upset about it. Speaking of rats, you must be confusing that pussy ass DiFronzo with all the hundreds of rat infested informants in your precious my dick is bigger than your dick New York 4 disorganized Families. Genovese Family being the exception.

Well obviously my dick is

Skinny who are you kidding here ?

John go to bed.

Is there really any captains worth more than Difronzo? I find it hard to believe some are worth over 30 million.

Easily

None, but their Dicks are bigger.

Like the kid knows anything

John when you run out of oxys you get crabby. Better hide that boy in the basement im sure your violating the terms of your probation