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Re: Gun Control
[Re: Turnbull]
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05/16/13 04:52 PM
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The only thing on which there is a 90 % consensus is on gun registration... I said in an earlier post that the reasons the Senate bill failed are ineffective leadership by Obama, and pervasive skepticism among Americans that Congress can fix anything, and/or growing distrust of government. That statistic is an example: Sure, 90% of a few thousand people sampled told pollsters that they support expanded background checks. But even though the sample probably was statistically valid, it didn't translate into 90% of Americans willing to work to get the bill passed by forming groups, writing or personally lobbying Senators and Reps, etc. They didn't care enough. Conversely, just three days after the sequester started screwing up air travel, enough Americans rose up in protest so that funding was miraculously restored for air traffic control. Fun thing about those Air traffic controlers. All they did was leave more room between planes in flight and slow the system down and BINGO the news and everyone else was on it like a bum on a sandwich. Tell me this why didn't they make them stay up on the standards that they should have been before sequester started. They didn't have less people in the major airports on duty. So they had a slowdown and got their way- how nice. Years ago Regan fired the wingholes when they went out on strike. Maybe someone should have put a boot up their a$$ and made them work the right way instead of the crap they pulled on America.
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: fathersson]
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05/17/13 12:25 AM
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Police Chief Asks Citizens for Ammo, Gets 1,500 Round Loan Amid Strong Response As the "Great Ammunition Shortage" continues, police departments across the country are struggling to supply their arsenals. One police chief turned to the community for help, and citizens stepped up. In Proctor, Minnesota, police chief Walter Wobig says that his suppliers have told him he'll have to wait "months" for the 1,000 rounds he's requested. When Wobig turned to the residents of Proctor by putting out a call for help meeting his department's ammo needs, citizens contacted his office, eager to help. "The citizens were like, 'If you need something, we got plenty here,'" said Wobig. One resident and a Proctor police officer loaned 1,500 rounds from their personal stockpile to the department. The Chief says others offered to help too. "I had several other calls from other citizens that said, 'Hey, if you need more ammunition we have plenty,'" said Wobig, The Chief says that when his ammunition order is filled, he will be repaying the citizens for their contributions. http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn...an-amid-strong
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: Turnbull]
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05/17/13 09:55 AM
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OF COURSE the air traffic control system could have functioned effectively under the sequester if people at all levels pulled together and operated more efficiently. But the controllers didn't want people to know that the system could do with fewer controllers--and the FAA didn't want people to know that the system could operate effectively with less money. That is the basic nature of bureaucracy.
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: Turnbull]
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05/17/13 01:39 PM
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But the controllers didn't want people to know that the system could do with fewer controllers--and the FAA didn't want people to know that the system could operate effectively with less money. That's true of any union, TB.
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: Giancarlo]
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06/01/13 12:25 PM
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Looks like California is going to want backround checks on ammo purchases too. $50 fee for the backround check. I would guess it's a 1 time thing and then you get put on the approved to buy ammo list. If your not on the approved list then you can't buy any ammo in the state.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-guns-boy-scouts-20130530,0,3573485.story Just remember what they keep telling you....You have nothing to worry about, no one wants your guns. They have nothing on their minds that will take your rights away... Yeah right, Just close your eyes until it is to late to change anything.
ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM. "...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824
Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: dontomasso]
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06/01/13 04:52 PM
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Mig, you need to chill. Of course all Americans didnt want it. There is very little All Americans are for or against. Take civil rights in the '60's or minimum age in the '30's. The only thing on which there is a 90 % consensus is on gun registration, and the NRA and wingholes in congress stopped it. Well I see you believe obama when he made the 90% reference, well there is a problem as I see it when it comes to this supposed 90%. If 90% of americans supported it as you and obama claim then it would make sense that it would have passed by overwhelming numbers, as the senators who voted against it would have voted in favor of it as they would not have been worried about losing in the next election. Unless you're going to try and tell me that all the senators who voted against it would be worried by the 10% who was against it. yeah the NRA was instrumental in getting it blocked but I'm sure all the people who contacted their respective senators urging them to vote against this which I did with both of my senators was just as instrumental. Oh wait let me guess just the 10% opopsed to it contacted their senators right. Simple fact is background checks will never work as the people they are designed to stop will NEVER go through the proper channels in the first place.
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: Giancarlo]
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06/01/13 04:59 PM
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Looks like California is going to want backround checks on ammo purchases too. $50 fee for the backround check. I would guess it's a 1 time thing and then you get put on the approved to buy ammo list. If your not on the approved list then you can't buy any ammo in the state.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-guns-boy-scouts-20130530,0,3573485.story Why does this not surprise me?
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: pizzaboy]
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06/01/13 06:48 PM
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lol at california! another great idea coming from a state that despite having an abundance of natural resources and amazing scenery has turned itself into one of the biggest financial disasters in america. its getting to the point where a head of lettuce has more rights there than a person! what i've seen coming has begun to take shape, ny and california engaging in a sort of "dueling pianos" to see which state can screw over and inconvenience law abiding citizens even more while continuing with the "death by 1000 cuts" approach to the 2nd amendment favored by the authoritarian dopes in both states. that state is lost, a real shame! on the bright side i'm sure the money generated by this "fee", not tax, will be well spend. my guess, something free for non-citizens!
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: Five_Felonies]
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06/01/13 09:37 PM
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I suppose they think that this measure is going to discourage gun crime--after all, every criminal buys his ammo at guns stores, right?  Then again, they're not going to collect a cent because there's not a round of ammo to be bought, anywhere.
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: The Iceman]
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06/02/13 12:57 AM
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Well I see you believe obama when he made the 90% reference, well there is a problem as I see it when it comes to this supposed 90%. If 90% of americans supported it as you and obama claim then it would make sense that it would have passed by overwhelming numbers, as the senators who voted against it would have voted in favor of it as they would not have been worried about losing in the next election. Unless you're going to try and tell me that all the senators who voted against it would be worried by the 10% who was against it.
yeah the NRA was instrumental in getting it blocked but I'm sure all the people who contacted their respective senators urging them to vote against this which I did with both of my senators was just as instrumental. Oh wait let me guess just the 10% opopsed to it contacted their senators right. Beg to differ here, first of all I'm not sure why a 60 minimum vote is necessary to pass a measure in the senate, but it did get votes of more than half the senators, just not 60 out of 100. In every other democracy, half the votes would be enough. Second of all, I think NRA is more important to these senators than their actual constituents, because you just have one vote, but NRA actually can fund their campaign or that of their opponents. And thirdly, the approval rating for some of these senators who voted against this bill dropped significantly. So I think you might be in the wrong here.
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: afsaneh77]
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06/02/13 09:20 AM
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It's not ncessary. However, 60 votes is the threshhold to preclude a filibuster. So why didn't they go through a filibuster? Isn't it a good time to show the absurdity of it? Unless both sides are quite comfortable with it, which seems to be the case. Both sides are more or less confortable with it because each party knows that the majority control of the Seante changes from time to time. Tempting as it is for the present majority party to do away with the filibuster/60 vote rule, its probably not going to happen because one day it will the the minorits y and then will get all kinds of programs they don't like rammed down their throats.
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: dontomasso]
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06/02/13 01:54 PM
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It's not ncessary. However, 60 votes is the threshhold to preclude a filibuster. So why didn't they go through a filibuster? Isn't it a good time to show the absurdity of it? Unless both sides are quite comfortable with it, which seems to be the case. Both sides are more or less confortable with it because each party knows that the majority control of the Seante changes from time to time. Tempting as it is for the present majority party to do away with the filibuster/60 vote rule, its probably not going to happen because one day it will the the minority and then will get all kinds of programs they don't like rammed down their throats. Very well put, Counselor  . Translation: Partisan politics as usual  .
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Re: Gun Control
[Re: MaryCas]
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06/13/13 08:17 AM
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A 4 year old shot and killed his father the other day. They were visiting a friend who left a loaded gun out in the open, loaded. The kid picked up the gun and shot his father - dead. The kid has to live with that. Gun control....hmmm, people control. You just can't fix stupid.... Do you have a link so I can read the story? Thanks
ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM. "...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824
Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"
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Re: Gun Control
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A 4 year old shot and killed his father the other day. They were visiting a friend who left a loaded gun out in the open, loaded. The kid picked up the gun and shot his father - dead. The kid has to live with that. Gun control....hmmm, people control. You just can't fix stupid.... Do you have a link so I can read the story? Thanks http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/08/us/arizona-man-shotCan't fix stupid, but you can take away the things that facilitate stupid.
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Re: Gun Control
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A 4 year old shot and killed his father the other day. They were visiting a friend who left a loaded gun out in the open, loaded. The kid picked up the gun and shot his father - dead. The kid has to live with that. Gun control....hmmm, people control. You just can't fix stupid.... Do you have a link so I can read the story? Thanks http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/08/us/arizona-man-shotCan't fix stupid, but you can take away the things that facilitate stupid. Thanks for the link. I want to look into the story some more to see some of the real facts. Thanks again.
ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM. "...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824
Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"
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Re: Gun Control
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Connecticut gun maker moving to South Carolina, in wake of tighter state gun laws
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A Connecticut gun manufacturer is moving to South Carolina after Connecticut lawmakers passed stricter gun-control laws in the aftermath of the fatal Sandy Hook School shootings. PTR Industries will make the formal announcement next week at a ribbon-cutting to be attended by South Carolina Republican Gov. Nikki Haley, according to The Sun News of Myrtle Beach. The company is going to Horry County, which includes Myrtle Beach, and has already approved a resolution setting out the terms of the company's move. County Council Chairman Mark Lazarus says he's excited about the development.
Josh Fiorini, PTR's chief executive officer, says the plant will employ 140 people, many of whom will relocate from Connecticut. The move will take place over three years. The company said it had been contacted by 41 states and selected South Carolina from six finalists.
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Re: Gun Control
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06/21/13 01:26 PM
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Good. A shithole like South Carolina can have it. Seems like they were good enought for 41 other states to offer them a new home. CT loss I guess..... along with 140 housewholes, and maybe 140 houses that may be now up for sale if they follow the company. Not to mention the trickle down effect on other business still there when they pull out from their payroll checks no longer being in town buying goods and services. 
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Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"
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