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Re: The West Coast Families [Re: furio_from_naples] #720762
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Who knows about LA, theres really nothing left to be the boss of.

You have to remember the source that Gambino became Underboss was Kenji Gallo under his original Crimeman blog. Then he said he wasn't and that Gambino was just a punk and not respected by anyone out there. Even in his book he badmouths Gambino so who the hell really knows what the deal was out there. Was Gambino really the Underboss, ask Kenji he seems to be the source for all the stories and the last i remember him saying was that he wasn't.

Here's where Gallo first said Gambino became Underboss in his Crimeman Blog and he used the name Mafia soldier.

"I was hanging out in a bar last night and my friends and I were discussing the presidential race. Clinton came up. We all laughed, because a friend of ours who is made and now [the Los Angeles] underboss [Tommy Gambino] gave Roger Clinton a 50,000 dollar check and a Rolex to help his father get a parole. His father who I know as Sal was a major player in the Pizza Connection and dumped tons of heroin on the streets of the US. It was all swept under the table."

http://www.lukeford.net/profiles/profiles/steve_bing.htm?ModPagespeed=noscript

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Re: The West Coast Families [Re: IvyLeague] #720769
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: HandsomeStevie
So the LA family is active with Tommaso Gambino as boss since 2012?


There really is no formally structured, viable family in Los Angeles. Just a handful of members still living, some of them not even residing in California anymore. And there's been no official verification that Tommy Gambino is the new boss since Milano died.


Ivy in another thread you claimed Tommasso Gambino is a wanabee? Care to explain?

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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
Who knows about LA, theres really nothing left to be the boss of.

You have to remember the source that Gambino became Underboss was Kenji Gallo under his original Crimeman blog. Then he said he wasn't and that Gambino was just a punk and not respected by anyone out there. Even in his book he badmouths Gambino so who the hell really knows what the deal was out there. Was Gambino really the Underboss, ask Kenji he seems to be the source for all the stories and the last i remember him saying was that he wasn't.


That Gallo kid is a known liar, if anyones a punk and not respected I'd imagine its him.
Tommaso will get respect just based on his family, who knows if hes actually a legit player in LCN.

Re: The West Coast Families [Re: TommyGambino] #720809
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Originally Posted By: TommyGambino

Ivy in another thread you claimed Tommasso Gambino is a wanabee? Care to explain?


Where did I say Tommy Gambino is a wannabe? He is made. But beyond that, it's not clear what his rank is exactly. And whatever his rank is, it doesn't really matter as far as the non-existent LA family goes.


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Re: The West Coast Families [Re: IvyLeague] #720855
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Here's what's left of the family. Some of these guys may very well have died since this list was compiled. I already took Caci off.



Peter "Shakes" Milano/83 - the "boss," whatever that means at this point. He owns a coffee and water company.

Louis "Little Man" Caruso/52 - is/was a captain, owns an air-conditioning installation and repair business in Arizona.

Tommaso "Tommy" Gambino - internet rumors had him either a captain or underboss. Seems more like a wannabe than anything. Related to the Siclian Gambinos, of course.

hey ivy new here so i dont mean to call you out you seem to know your stuff but it looks like u did say it a while back. last activity about tommaso gambino was that ectasy lab he was suspected of financing like 10 years ago, been pretty quiet every since.


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Re: The West Coast Families [Re: furio_from_naples] #720857
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
last activity about tommaso gambino was that ectasy lab he was suspected of financing like 10 years ago, been pretty quiet every since.

Those guys went down hard. They had Gambino and Galanis on tape but Gambino didn't say much and avoided getting indicted but he was close to getting popped with those guys from what i read. But he just sensed it was trouble and didn't talk as the tape rolled. You know they would of loved to put a Gambino, son of notorious heroin kingpin on that indictment if they could of.

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Ya he dodged a big bullett, was smart to lay low after that. Guess time will only tell what hes been up to.


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Re: The West Coast Families [Re: Skinny] #720927
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Skinney, L.A.DOES NOT have 20 guys. You don't know what you're talking about. Milano is dead and the the L.A. family IS DEAD and has been for awhile. There are a few guys living out there who may do something on their own but there is no family of 20 guys. No fucking way. Milano owned a Bail Bond agency called Bell Bail Bonds that his second wife named Rochelle operated it. She is Jewish. What else do you want to know about the Milano Brothers originally from Cleveland?

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Re: The West Coast Families [Re: IvyLeague] #720929
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
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Ivy in another thread you claimed Tommasso Gambino is a wanabee? Care to explain?


Where did I say Tommy Gambino is a wannabe? He is made. But beyond that, it's not clear what his rank is exactly. And whatever his rank is, it doesn't really matter as far as the non-existent LA family goes.


Dellcroce explained below what you said, so why is he a wannabe?

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For those of you interested in L.A. organized crime I'm currently reading "L.A. Noir: The Struggle for the Soul of America's Most Seductive City" by John Buntin. Still have a ways to go but it is very interesting so far. Right now in the early chapters it is covering Mickey Cohen's battle with LAPD police chief William Parker. I read "Gangster Squad" but I didn't care for it.

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Originally Posted By: elmwoodparker
Skinney, L.A.DOES NOT have 20 guys. You don't know what you're talking about. Milano is dead and the the L.A. family IS DEAD and has been for awhile. There are a few guys living out there who may do something on their own but there is no family of 20 guys. No fucking way. Milano owned a Bail Bond agency called Bell Bail Bonds that his second wife named Rochelle operated it. She is Jewish. What else do you want to know about the Milano Brothers originally from Cleveland?


Just passing along what iv heard parker. I dont either know or care. It doesnt bother me you trying to attack everything i say, you equivilate the size of your dick with the power of the chicago family....(unsightly small and weak).

Re: The West Coast Families [Re: furio_from_naples] #720947
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We should let the LA family rest in peace like most of their members.


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Re: The West Coast Families [Re: Skinny] #720966
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Wrong! Unsightly, small and Skinny is more like it!

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Re: The West Coast Families [Re: Dellacroce] #721064
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Originally Posted By: Dellacroce
hey ivy new here so i dont mean to call you out you seem to know your stuff but it looks like u did say it a while back. last activity about tommaso gambino was that ectasy lab he was suspected of financing like 10 years ago, been pretty quiet every since.


OK, fair enough. But, to clarify, by "wannabe," I meant he doesn't seem to be a big player or even very respected within LCN circles. One wonders if he'd even be made if it wasn't for his family ties. I remember reading something about him coming out to the west coast, and being made into the LA family, because he butted heads with some guys back east. And, according to Kenny Gallo, guys like Jimmy Caci didn't think much of him. As for that ecstasy lab, Galanis reportedly sought financial backing from Tommy Gambino but I'm not sure he ever got it, considering Gambino was never charged in the case. The last news was Gambino applying for a trademark for his "Gambino Lite Vodka."


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Re: The West Coast Families [Re: furio_from_naples] #721071
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The L.A family has no more than 8 guys they are no longer a viable family, they have a few made guys down there that make some dough with guys from other families and that as far as that goes.

Re: The West Coast Families [Re: IvyLeague] #721073
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Ya i agree ivy, common sense would suggest that if he ws a big player or respected and given who he is he would in contact or in business in some way, shape, or form with new york which he doesnt appear to be. Lol at gambino lite vodka.


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Re: The West Coast Families [Re: furio_from_naples] #721089
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im guessing the 10 or so guys are doing good in L.A. any made guy in any family probaly touch base when they fly in there. the Gambino guy is in a good spot im sure he brokers all types of drug deals for the guys back in nyc. a made guy goes out there and thomas Gambino points him to the right Mexican where they can get a truck load of coke or a ton of the good weed and he doesn't touch nothing just gets a fat commission. its l.a. there tons of scams and they can lay low cause there not the big fishes in town like the mob on the east coast. his uncles are the top guys, ofcorse there gonna back him as boss. then he can make all his friends and live good have a small 20 guys or so fam. with his cousins in charge of nyc and his dad back in Italy I bet this guys making moves.

Re: The West Coast Families [Re: furio_from_naples] #721096
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples

http://www.netplaces.com/mafia/family-ties/the-west-coast-families.htm

The West Coast Families by Scott M. Deitche

California was not quite the immigrant bastions that states back East were. Consequently the Mafia presence in cities like Los Angeles and San Jose were comprised mainly of transplants from New York and Chicago. But while the mobsters that made up the bulk of these small-time gangs were from some of the biggest crime families in the country, their exploits out West were decidedly minor league.

Los Angeles, California
The mob in Los Angeles never got much respect, even though they oversaw gambling, loansharking, and pornography. Founded by Joseph Ardizzone, the most influential Los Angeles Mafioso was Jack Dragna. He oversaw a small family of mostly East Coast transplants, nicknamed the “Mickey Mouse Mafia” by the Los Angeles Police Department. Dragna was involved with Hollywood unions and bookmaking. Dragna died in 1956 and was replaced by Frank DiSimone, followed by Nick Licata and then Dominic Brooklier. After Brooklier died, the family fell under the control of Peter Milano. The continually down on its luck family was plagued by informers, constant law enforcement surveillance, and a complete lack of respect on the streets. Though they should have faded away long ago, Milano still leads the now long-in-the-jaw Mickey Mouse Mafia.

San Francisco, California
Concentrated in the heavily Italian North Beach neighborhood, the Bay Area crime family remained a small, local criminal organization, never achieving much power outside their territory. The first don was named Frank Lanza, and he was the boss during Prohibition. Two other dons followed before Lanza's son James took over in the 1960s. He was not a grandiose hood who loved the limelight. The family received some notoriety after Jimmy Frattiano became a government witness, but faded into obscurity after Lanza's death.

San Jose, California
Onofrio Sciortino was the lyrically named founder of this low-key California family. He was replaced by Joseph Cerrito, a Sicilian native who operated a successful auto dealership in Los Gatos. Cerrito died in 1978 of a heart attack and the San Jose Mafia family died with him.



These little blurbs came from my 2nd edition of The Everything Mafia Book, obviously written both for the casual reader, and before Shakes Milano died.

Re: The West Coast Families [Re: pmac] #721179
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Originally Posted By: pmac
im guessing the 10 or so guys are doing good in L.A. any made guy in any family probaly touch base when they fly in there. the Gambino guy is in a good spot im sure he brokers all types of drug deals for the guys back in nyc. a made guy goes out there and thomas Gambino points him to the right Mexican where they can get a truck load of coke or a ton of the good weed and he doesn't touch nothing just gets a fat commission. its l.a. there tons of scams and they can lay low cause there not the big fishes in town like the mob on the east coast. his uncles are the top guys, ofcorse there gonna back him as boss. then he can make all his friends and live good have a small 20 guys or so fam. with his cousins in charge of nyc and his dad back in Italy I bet this guys making moves.
yes therotically he would be in a good position to be making deals like that but whether or not they are actually hapening is anybodys guess.


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Re: The West Coast Families [Re: furio_from_naples] #721271
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Furio Furio Furio, you have done this before my bro, pulling up lists of familes that are dead and saying they're still operating. Like what HK and Ivy said, there is not a family operating in Cali anymore. SF has zero made dudes left and just a couple of associates, LA has 7-9 made guys (you put Porno Mike twice on your list by the way), San Jose has a few made guys but none of them are doing anything at all these days (you forgot to add Thomas Novello as a made guy to your living list). Seattle never had a La Cosa Nostra family and never will.




Here are some pictures of some San Jose mob guys.

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=701545

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Originally Posted By: stern49
Furio Furio Furio, you have done this before my bro, pulling up lists of familes that are dead and saying they're still operating. Like what HK and Ivy said, there is not a family operating in Cali anymore. SF has zero made dudes left and just a couple of associates, LA has 7-9 made guys (you put Porno Mike twice on your list by the way), San Jose has a few made guys but none of them are doing anything at all these days (you forgot to add Thomas Novello as a made guy to your living list). Seattle never had a La Cosa Nostra family and never will.




Here are some pictures of some San Jose mob guys.

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=701545


And also...perhaps it should be noted in your posts Furio, that the member lists were originally posted by NJboy55. Most of you don´t think that´s of any importance but I disagree. Let´s give NJboy55 credit for those lists.


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I agree with that. His Cali charts are spot on accept on two guys on his LA chart with putting Tony Fiato as being born in 1949 and Tommy Gambino being born in 1965. Fiato was born in 1972, at the time I'm sure it was hard to find the date he was born or anything on the guy. Still did great work!

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What, I don't understand is why is Kenny "Kenji" Gallo still breathing? First he's half Japanese how would he be so accepted to come over to N.Y. to work for the Colombo family? I can see LA because the family is small over here and he was making money with the drugs and porn scene. If he was an informant and put away some Colombo members and others why hasn't he been killed they know where he's at?

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Honestly i dont think any rat has to be leaving in fear in this day in age, there are many examples of guys who flipped then left the program and are living out in the open and nothing happens to them. The last time i can think of the mob went after a high profile witness was when ol one eyed peter gotti was trying to take out gravano and all it got him was 25 years, and i expect the same thing to happen to anyelse planning on taking out a govt witness.


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Originally Posted By: stern49
I agree with that. His Cali charts are spot on accept on two guys on his LA chart with putting Tony Fiato as being born in 1949 and Tommy Gambino being born in 1965. Fiato was born in 1972, at the time I'm sure it was hard to find the date he was born or anything on the guy. Still did great work!


Rosario Gambino's son Tommaso "Tommy" Gambino is 39, he was born in 1974.

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Is the John Gambino we're talking about here is the zip from the Cherry Hill crew?


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Originally Posted By: Tony_Pro
Is the John Gambino we're talking about here is the zip from the Cherry Hill crew?


Yes, but John Gambino ran the dope operation from his cafe on 18th Ave in Brooklyn. He never lived in NJ. His 2 brothers did.

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If tommaso is the boss of la this will make the new york family that mych stronger and I'm sure new york will give la guts to help them rebuild


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It's safe to say that on the West Coast, there are no more functioning Mafia families. Tommy Gambino is technically the Underboss/Boss, but there's nothing left to manage.

What does happen out in LA is that various soldiers from a variety of families work together. A lot of them own legitimate businesses, restaurants mostly, and who knows if any actual illegal activity occurs, although if it does, it's likely higher level financial crimes.

This was true back in the 1980s/1990s. If you look up the various Mafia busts from 85, 96 etc, there were guys from Chicago, Patriarcha, Gambino, Colombo all in on them.

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I'm NOT 100% on this but i've heard Tommy Gambino is in NY these days and is under his uncles John and Joe.

He is not the boss of the LA Family because there really isn't a LA family anymore.

He most likely still has business interests in L.A.

Within the past year he has been in Palermo visiting his father Rosario.

Also i read Frank Cali was partners with a Tommy Gambino in the early 1990's in a business called "Ital Products Express". It's mentioned in that report on Circus Produce Corp. I'm not sure though if this Tommy Gambino is Rosario Gambino's son Tommasso or John Gambino's son also named Tommaso.

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