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Re: SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN DOMA
[Re: dontomasso]
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06/26/13 12:14 PM
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This is classic. Mike Huckabee tweeted this: My thoughts on the SCOTUS ruling that determined that same sex marriage is okay: "Jesus wept." Gay activist Dan Savage replied:
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Re: SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN DOMA
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06/26/13 12:18 PM
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This is classic. Mike Huckabee tweeted this: My thoughts on the SCOTUS ruling that determined that same sex marriage is okay: "Jesus wept." I catch a little of Huckabee's radio show every week. I will definitely tune in today in about 40 minutes.
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Re: SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN DOMA
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06/26/13 12:45 PM
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This is classic. Mike Huckabee tweeted this: My thoughts on the SCOTUS ruling that determined that same sex marriage is okay: "Jesus wept." Gay activist Dan Savage replied: Weep all you want. Lex lex est. Anyway you wont have to weep long. Afer all Glenn Beck has promised to reveal something that was going to blow up the whole system. Oh I forgot that was supposed to happen yesterday. Ah well, maybe there's some apocalypse comet out there, or perhaps a natural disaster that can be blamed on these decisions. The deluded will always be among us. BTW read your ACTS of Apostles, especially the passages from Peter where he says people should ignore old rituals and laws and act OUT.
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Re: SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN DOMA
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06/26/13 02:13 PM
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"Doma writes inequality into the entire United States Code," Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in the ruling. So how about that quote? Isn't it a hint that if a case were to be heard based on equal protection clause that gay marriage would be recognized as constitutional?
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Re: SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN DOMA
[Re: dontomasso]
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06/26/13 02:25 PM
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Good for them. If they want to be miserable too, why not?
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Re: SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN DOMA
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06/26/13 02:54 PM
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"Doma writes inequality into the entire United States Code," Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote in the ruling. So how about that quote? Isn't it a hint that if a case were to be heard based on equal protection clause that gay marriage would be recognized as constitutional? No. Court opinions are largely a function of the litigants' arguments and precedent. Predicting outcomes is a precarious business.
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Re: SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN DOMA
[Re: dontomasso]
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06/26/13 05:39 PM
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It only took the U.S. president and the Governor of California refusing to do their duty to represent their jurisdictions, and 5 corrupt Supreme Court justices, to change the definition of marriage; despite this being decided long ago in relation to polygamy.
Obama's comments particularly made me sick. Funny how he has such of change of heart after he's safely in his second term. And it's funny how not one of the liberal hacks on this board have said one word about it. Or about Clinton's flip flop, for that matter.
That said, I can live with the DOMA decision because it should be left up to the states. Therein, however, the Supreme Court is again being hypocritical. They strike down DOMA because New York state law needed to be respected in the plaintiff's case. And yet they turn right around and snub the will of the people in California with their Prop 8 non-decision. Which, in turn, was originally snubbed by a gay judge. Conflict of interest, anyone?
Hide and watch. Now the judiciary will attempt to overrule each state's right to ban gay marriage. And they'll start by trying to force those states to recognize gay marriages that have taken place in other states. This is how our Constitution will come to "hang by a thread" - through corrupt lawyers and judges. For now, I'm grateful to live in a state like Utah where degeneracy isn't enshrined and wickedness celebrated.
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Re: SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN DOMA
[Re: dontomasso]
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06/27/13 08:36 AM
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LOL a majority of the supreme court is "rogue." These people will say anything. No, put as some will point out- they are not voted in by the people. Like you said before...about replacing some others with ones that feel the same was you do to get the rulings that you want. Confrimation by a select few, with deals and everything else done behind closed doors make the system even more upstetting by many. and this passed by one vote, so as always one vote could have turned it either way. But no matter which way it went half the people would be upset. Lets watch and see how they untangle all this mess now. On all levels and combos that interwind.
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Re: SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN DOMA
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06/27/13 10:47 AM
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LOL a majority of the supreme court is "rogue." These people will say anything. No, put as some will point out- they are not voted in by the people. Like you said before...about replacing some others with ones that feel the same was you do to get the rulings that you want. Confrimation by a select few, with deals and everything else done behind closed doors make the system even more upstetting by many. and this passed by one vote, so as always one vote could have turned it either way. But no matter which way it went half the people would be upset. Lets watch and see how they untangle all this mess now. On all levels and combos that interwind. The appointment of Supreme Court justices by the executive branch with confirmation by the legislative branch is part of the checks and balances designed to secure separation of powers. Moreover, the Framers recognized that an independent judiciary is necessary to safeguard constitutional rights, which would be opposed by the political majority. The system is not the "behind closed doors," secretive process you imply. The decision is the result of federal litigation with testimony, a district court ruling and published opinion, followed by a Notice of Appeal that identifies basis for appeal, briefs submitted to the Circuit Court, an appellate decision, citing precedent, fact and Constitutional provisions, a petition to allow an appeal to SCOTUS with briefs a decision granting allowance of appeal, oral argument of the parties before the Court and a final published and read decision with dissent, all of which are done in the public. It doesn't get any more open than that. If you want an elected Supreme Court, you deal with justiceswho receive large sums of money from nonprofits, who don't disclose their donors, and PACs. As far as the 5-4 decision, keep in mind that the Heller case, which in 2008 found an individual right to own a firearm under the Second Amendment for the first time in American history, was a 5-4 decision. It's disengenuous to condemn the process only when it yields results, with which you don't agree. And keep in mind that the DOMA decision is limited in scope. The federal government must recognize the valid marriages of its states. It does not make a broad, sweeping proclamation making gay marriage the law of the land.
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Re: SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN DOMA
[Re: klydon1]
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06/27/13 10:54 AM
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LOL a majority of the supreme court is "rogue." These people will say anything. No, put as some will point out- they are not voted in by the people. Like you said before...about replacing some others with ones that feel the same was you do to get the rulings that you want. Confrimation by a select few, with deals and everything else done behind closed doors make the system even more upstetting by many. and this passed by one vote, so as always one vote could have turned it either way. But no matter which way it went half the people would be upset. Lets watch and see how they untangle all this mess now. On all levels and combos that interwind. The appointment of Supreme Court justices by the executive branch with confirmation by the legislative branch is part of the checks and balances designed to secure separation of powers. Moreover, the Framers recognized that an independent judiciary is necessary to safeguard constitutional rights, which would be opposed by the political majority. The system is not the "behind closed doors," secretive process you imply. The decision is the result of federal litigation with testimony, a district court ruling and published opinion, followed by a Notice of Appeal that identifies basis for appeal, briefs submitted to the Circuit Court, an appellate decision, citing precedent, fact and Constitutional provisions, a petition to allow an appeal to SCOTUS with briefs a decision granting allowance of appeal, oral argument of the parties before the Court and a final published and read decision with dissent, all of which are done in the public. It doesn't get any more open than that. If you want an elected Supreme Court, you deal with justiceswho receive large sums of money from nonprofits, who don't disclose their donors, and PACs. As far as the 5-4 decision, keep in mind that the Heller case, which in 2008 found an individual right to own a firearm under the Second Amendment for the first time in American history, was a 5-4 decision. It's disengenuous to condemn the process only when it yields results, with which you don't agree. And keep in mind that the DOMA decision is limited in scope. The federal government must recognize the valid marriages of its states. It does not make a broad, sweeping proclamation making gay marriage the law of the land. What is all this belly-aching about the Supremes being appointed and meeting in secret? This is the origiinal intent by the founding fathers. I thought conservatives loved original intent. I thought they believe it was handed to the founders on tablets by Jesus Himself  Now their ox is gored by a progressive decision on gay rights and they have their collective panties in a wad? 
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Re: SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN DOMA
[Re: olivant]
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06/27/13 11:49 AM
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Here in Texas, the election of all judges except municipal judges is lamented because of just what you point out: their vulnerability to fianancial enticement by campaign donors and the influence upon their opinions by those donors. In fact, in the textbook I use for class it has a section that asks Is Justice for Sale in Texas?
In Fla in 2012 there was a concerted effort to unseat two State Supreme Court Justices. I believe Koch money was involved. Fortunately it did not work. I have a good friend who is a circuit Court judge, running unopposed for re-election. He was advised to raise 100K just to scare off opposition. It is a crazy way to select judges.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
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Re: SUPREME COURT STRIKES DOWN DOMA
[Re: dontomasso]
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06/27/13 05:47 PM
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LOL a majority of the supreme court is "rogue." These people will say anything. No, put as some will point out- they are not voted in by the people. Like you said before...about replacing some others with ones that feel the same was you do to get the rulings that you want. Confrimation by a select few, with deals and everything else done behind closed doors make the system even more upstetting by many. and this passed by one vote, so as always one vote could have turned it either way. But no matter which way it went half the people would be upset. Lets watch and see how they untangle all this mess now. On all levels and combos that interwind. The appointment of Supreme Court justices by the executive branch with confirmation by the legislative branch is part of the checks and balances designed to secure separation of powers. Moreover, the Framers recognized that an independent judiciary is necessary to safeguard constitutional rights, which would be opposed by the political majority. The system is not the "behind closed doors," secretive process you imply. The decision is the result of federal litigation with testimony, a district court ruling and published opinion, followed by a Notice of Appeal that identifies basis for appeal, briefs submitted to the Circuit Court, an appellate decision, citing precedent, fact and Constitutional provisions, a petition to allow an appeal to SCOTUS with briefs a decision granting allowance of appeal, oral argument of the parties before the Court and a final published and read decision with dissent, all of which are done in the public. It doesn't get any more open than that. If you want an elected Supreme Court, you deal with justiceswho receive large sums of money from nonprofits, who don't disclose their donors, and PACs. As far as the 5-4 decision, keep in mind that the Heller case, which in 2008 found an individual right to own a firearm under the Second Amendment for the first time in American history, was a 5-4 decision. It's disengenuous to condemn the process only when it yields results, with which you don't agree. And keep in mind that the DOMA decision is limited in scope. The federal government must recognize the valid marriages of its states. It does not make a broad, sweeping proclamation making gay marriage the law of the land. What is all this belly-aching about the Supremes being appointed and meeting in secret? This is the origiinal intent by the founding fathers. I thought conservatives loved original intent. I thought they believe it was handed to the founders on tablets by Jesus Himself  Now their ox is gored by a progressive decision on gay rights and they have their collective panties in a wad? Pleae take it easy DT we don't want you to have an attack. People do have a right to think and express how they think and feel, right or wrong as you well know from posting here long enough. I personally understand what Klydon posted but that isn't going to help the people who don't understand the process or agree with their rulings. As I pointed out even you made the comment about getting a certain type on there for some people benifit did you not? and what does your  do to help for that matter? Attacking conservatives even. Seems like your the one who may have to untwist your panties.  and your super happy abut the ruling.  so why get so upset? This has been a very passionate subject for so many. Almost as bad as abortion talk. Klydon - always a great job postering without the drama. Thanks But lets face it, lets not ne navie Kay- There are always things happening behind the scenes. No has trust anymore. Just look at what has happened in the news these very days.
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