Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Lilo
Right. Because King was a sheep like minority follower. You should read what he and other people wrote then and now on the issues you raise but obviously you haven't done that and likely won't. So if you're not even familiar with what King wrote, discussion is pointless.

As far as ad hominem attacks I have yet to see any prominent white conservative raise a voice in outrage over any current day public or private practices which negatively impact black people, whether it be job discrimination in hiring, pay and promotion, unemployment stats, harsher sentences for the same crime, disparities in wealth and education, housing segregation and so on. All those pass without conservatives saying anything. But when it comes to any sort of affirmative action they howl in outrage. On this issue conservatives are full of s***.


That's my point. You knock these prominent white conservatives for "not raising their voice" but you and other supporters of affirmative action are just as bad as they are. You're essentially saying, "Well, since they discriminate, we will too." That's where minorities lost the moral high ground. You don't achieve justice and equality by simply adding additional wrongs to the equation. It doesn't balance things out, as much as you'd like to believe it does. A more qualified white person, trying to go to college or get a job, has done nothing to deserve being passed over. They have nothing to do with past wrongs committed by others. But that's what affirmative action does; it penalizes them. It's wrong and it's racist. But it's racism against whites so you and other liberals are fine with that.


I do not accept that in every situation that the white person is automatically more qualified. The assumption that that is indeed the case is in part why affirmative action was and is needed. Again you go with the ad hominems because you don't have any facts. If your assumption is that there's no such thing as racism in hiring, promotion, firing, etc then of course affirmative action would seem to be unfair. But the facts, whether it's employers throwing out resumes with black sounding names, real estate steering, or blacks running into very real barriers to promotion in the workforce or any other number of unpleasant current day realities indicate otherwise.


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