you're defending Zimmerman because you're sick in the head

if u think he should be acquitted then you're on his side

let's pray that this same thing happens, I mean doesn't happen to ur son

Threatening another mans family over the internet. Wow, real tough guy you are.
Guys like you are funny, go cash your welfare check.

seriously. i saw this posted earlier, but figured it would have been handled by now, guess not. comments like that are even more ironic coming from somebody who has offered up nothing more than calling others "sick in the head", and then resorts to wishing someone else's kids dead because he is unable to respond with anything of substance. axe this fool and be done with it!

Fool implies hes human. Guys a junkie who identifies withTrayvon because his dad too had nothing to do with him and his momma raised him in a house filled with needles and crack pipes. They got a name for guys like cook county; crack babies.

@toothpickvinnie

so it's not okay for an asshole to pull a George Zimmerman on your son?

if you think what Zimmerman did was okay then why can't it happen to you?

you think teenager getting killed by strangers is okay unless it's your teen

My teenager:
1) wouldn't be walking around on the street on drugs
2) wouldn't have a extensive history of fighting, attempting to gain weapons and getting suspended from school
3) wouldn't beat the living shit out of guy for merely following him.

But keep making excuses. The point remains: self-defense wasn't rebutted by the prosecution beyond a reasonable doubt. Anyone that understand the law, at least a little bit, understand this.

Youre a scumbag, cook. You sound like you were raised in a similar fashion to trayvon. Threatening to kill people online. Wonderful.

I ain't threaten anybody or their family

george zimmerman has a history of fighting with the police

Trayvon Martin doesn't

george zimmermen has a history of domestic violence

Trayvon Martin doesn't

george zimmerman has been accused of child molestation

Trayvon Martin hasn't

Trayvon Martin was a drug addict, thug, with a history of violence and felonies. The kid was an asshole, he didn't deserve to die but he was mostly at fault. George Zimmerman is no better, he was aggressive and confrontational just like trayvon. However trayvon attacked first, and the guy with the gun protecting himself won the day. And every black guy and leader wants to paint trayvon Martin as a fucking choir boy? Get out of here with that shit. African Americans still feel like their victims of profiling and hate? Whatever problems they have are their own and not white people's or Latino people's. Guys like trayvon should have spent less time tripping out and getting into fights and more time focusing on education and getting somewhere in his life.

Trayvon Martin was not a drug addict or felon. You are wrong. But the rest of your racist rant is duly noted...

Racist? I'm not racist at all and many people who know me will tell you that. I was wrong on the felon part. However it should be noted that trayvon did have a history of violence and drug usage. Zimmerman could have handled the situation better but Martin attacked first. Zimmerman had a gun, what else was he going to do? Black leaders and the media have blown up this case completely. It's just another example of the race card being played. Come on I don't hate black people, many of my friends are black but this is ridiculous.

Joe Shmoe. Dont let them get you to stand down by the use of the race card. There was no race mentioned in your post. The fact is, people cant handle the truth. Same people calling you racist would say that african americans are not capable of racism, especially when they vote for a guy just because he is half black. And when zimmerman gets acquitted, they are all going to cry and riot in the streets.

It was admitted into evidence that he was using drugs at the time of his death. I will not even to go into the large amount of non-court evidence of his drug use. His fighting with school officals including a bus driver is also well-known. But continue on the campaign to make a loser kid into a hero.

Why do you guys make this case into your personal crusader? The fact is over 95 percent of gun violence against blacks come from their own community. Let's start there.

If George Zimmerman was black would this get nearly the amount of coverage? No

No, the media is only interested in trumped up race cases. It's not interested in the gangland, intercity black slaughter that has become a common event in this country. It is way harder to put it in a oppressed-oppressor lens, the liberal way at looking at the world.

Sad part about the whole thing is that certain "people" are turning this shit into a black and white deal and this Zimmerman guy is like Puerto Rican.

Zimmerman's mother is Peruvian, and his father is white. Zimmerman is Hispanic.

Going to presume that lot of the people on this board are non-wasp whites....or ethnic whites for no other reason than the usernames chosen and comments written.

There was virulent anti-insert your family's country of origin/anti-NON protestant sentiment in this country at various times. The Americans already here viewed YOUR immigrant ancestors as less than them (and often less than human). So that when the new immigrants were victims of crimes at the hands of members of mainstream, it was often written in the press that "these people are insert stereotypes" anyway, so it's no big deal that one of them was beaten, killed.

I have to beleive that you guys are aware of these incidents and some of the famous trials involving ethnic white immigrants.


The story of the funeral home director in the Godfather, sort of scratched the surface of this issue. The assaulters were affluent wasps, victim was poor Italian girl....her life meant very little in the eyes of the system, or of society at large.....so they walked .

fictional story but there had to have been hundreds of similar real life cases where person from certain segment of society( poor or recent immigrant) was not seen as full human being and was painted with stereotype.


Listen to some of the comments you are writing out loud. "Them" "those people" they need to" "they kill each other"
Go read some of the archived articles about immigrant ethnic white victims of crimes at the hands of assimilated American whites and tell me you're not expressing sme of the same views that they expressed (about your immigrant ancestors)



Maybe you guys think that others aren't aware of American history and the struggles of immigrant groups against stereotypes and injustice, but those stories are well known.

How many more hundreds of years do they need? You make it sound like they came here last week. They have been here longer than any immigrant group in america, and many immigrants groups since then have came here and done well despite FAR worse treatment. Like the Chinese or the Jews. The Jews were outright banned or otherwise harassed in many parts of the country. In fact the blacks that come here from overseas (Africa, Jamaica, etc) have success rates that are similar to asians and whites. The problem lies specifically in that particular community.

My ancestors were treated like shit, forced to work in granite mines (even dying of the lung disease)- but they worked hard and made their way up. They cared for their kids, didn't complain and march with poverty pimps, they didn't have 12 kids with 5 women. They didn't create a underlying victimhood to blame all of their lives troubles.

The thing is that what you are talking about, the immigrants getting shit on, it happened a long time ago. Jews, Irish, Polish, Italians, all got shit on when they first got here. But guess what, we all got here a long time ago and we have all evolved into higher society. African americans got to this country a long time ago too, but yet, they seem not to have made the move.
Jews, Irish, Polish, Italians didn't get an affirmative action. Yet they moved on. Blacks, they got all this stuff, and yet, they are still stuck at the lowest levels of society, and they still blame everyone else.

Are you deliberately missing the point?

what you guys are writing almost verbatim sounds like the sentiments expressed in the press by assimilated whites about ethnic whites/immigrants who were victims of crime at the hands of "American" whites.


I have to beleive that you guys understand my point and are deflecting and using tangents to avoid it.



"Those people" are "insert stereotype" anyway, so never mind what happened to THIS one.

What you are missing is the simple point; he aint goin down for any type of murder in this case. The law is the law. Capisce?

get,

Stop giving me BS and talking in moronic, pseudo-intellectual riddles. I'm guessing you took some marxist view of history at some point and now recite talking points. Whatever.

Let's talk the case. There were polls commissioned on the week after the case happened- 80 odd percent of blacks immediately responded he was guilty, other races thought we should wait until the evidence actually comes out.

Give me your prospective on the case now that the evidence has been presented. I would love to know, using your wonderful knowledge and legal acumen, citing specific evidence and case-law, how you could find this man guilty BEYOND a reasonable doubt, while rebutting BEYOND a reasonable doubt self-defense.

Cut out the attacks like this. Stick to your arguments and their merits.

I'm going to let the legal process take place and wait for the verdict.

Ultimately what the jury decides is what's important. Not what you think, not what I think.

Arm chair attorneys get to debate this back and forth,and in the process a lot of misguided anger is directed towards Martin and Zimmerman,but at the end of the day...nothing matters except what the jury decides.(and the sentencing guidelines)

carry on, though

First, you claim that somesort of racial stereotypes and animius is behind people that believe there is a reasonable cause to acquit Zimmerman (ie the prosecution didn't prove their case)- and now you are claiming you are a fair and balanced viewer that just wants justice.

Which is it? You can't come on here and insult people's character and integrity with hints of racism and then hide behind this garbage.

Show me where I said or implied the first part of what you wrote.


I simply addressed the comment about "trayvon was a lowlife" by pointing out some facts that haven't been changed or shown to be false/

that Trayvon was minding his own business(and that zimmerman appointed himself judge jury and executioner)

and that unless it's a crime to be walking the streets that Trayvon was not doing anything WRONG when he was targeted.(I asked if anyone could tell me what crime he was committing when he was being targeted/followed......got no responses that answered the question)


and that the lowlives are the ones who trivialize his death

So, again, you find where I expressed the views you're accusing me of saying....show me




After having read your posts.....and how you dodged my points about historic stereotypes of ethnic whites here....Martin seems to be the scapegoat/lighning rod for whatever feelings you have towards Black people, so the fact that he was doing nothing........was followed and confronted, and ended up DEAD means nothing to you.

Trayvon was doing nothing wrong. Zimmerman was being overzealous, that is until Martin decided to attack him. That's where the shit hits the fan, along with the fact he had a history of violence and drugs and that's why he's dead. It's a fucking blown up media case, it's an excuse for black leaders to cry victim once more and Zimmerman should go free. Martin is not a lightning rod nor a stereotype for all black people. He was just a stupid kid who bit off more than he could chew with Zimmerman and paid for it. He did not deserve death but that's life however unfortunate it may be

They? Them?? What are you all talking about?? This is DISGUSTING! How about we are ALL HUMAN BEINGS?? And referring to any ethnic group as they or them is nauseating.

As for your comments about "them" getting here a long time ago, and why haven't "they" evolved like other cultural groups, when was the last time an Italian wasn't counted as a WHOLE PERSON, as blacks were not originally counted in the 13th Amendment. When was the last time a Jew wasn't allowed to eat at the counter at Woolworths?? Did the Irish have to attend separate schools? Use separate restrooms? Drink from a different water fountain??

It all is very, very recent history and don't belittle it or pretend that it was so long ago that we all live in a happy snappy ShangriLa now.

Trayvon Martin, who smoked pot like almost every other teenager in the US, was walking to the home where he was staying after a trip to the convenience store to buy some candy. He was followed and intimidated and frightened. Did he act rashly and attack George Zimmerman? Perhaps he did. However, he ended up dead and George Zimmmerman is walking around.

The racist ranting that I've read here has made me positively sick, and you should all go look in a mirror and decide how you can live with yourselves.

I don't get why Martin is being portrayed as an innocent victim here. What about him was so innocent? The fact that he attacked Zimmerman? Zimmerman followed him yes and profiled him, however two wrongs don't make a right. The guy's injuries were pretty severe. I'm also not portraying Zimmerman as innocent either because he wasn't. But Trayvon attacked him, Zimmerman used his gun to protect himself and that's it. It's sad but now the media is taking advantage of it. However it is NOT racist to say that this was partially Trayvon's fault or that he's not an innocent kid.