How is he innocent? Put yourself in his shoes for one moment. You're in an unfamiliar neighborhood, you're just a kid. You're walking home from the store and a strange man starts following you. Perhaps you hear him on the phone reporting your presence to the police. For what? For walking? He continues to stalk you and he's scaring you. And all you've done THAT NIGHT (which is all that's really relevant) is walk home after buying some candy. That's what makes him so innocent.

Interesting, however, that you concentrated on Trayvon and not one other word from my post.

Sweetheart, you talking to the wrong white man. My people were the white mans bitch when they were chasing zebras and painting their faces. So spare me.

How interesting, again. I wrote three paragraphs about the treatment of blacks and all anyone responds to is Trayvon. I have to go throw up now.

Edit: And I'm not your sweetheart, so don't speak to me that way.

this thread is about the current criminal trial, not race. funny though, how some choose to frame a discussion when they have no legs to stand on as far as the trial is concerned. but to keep it fair since race has been brought up, where is all the outrage with regards to the insane amount of racism towards whites and threats of riots via social media if some don't get their way? strangely enough, i haven't seen any white people threatening to murder blacks and destroy property, but fuck it, its only fair right? if you will all excuse me, i also have to throw up, white guilt makes me sick!

If he heard Zimmerman was calling police, why should he be afraid?

It's because you're starting in with the same politically correct, white-guilt, keepin' the black man down BS that we've had to read from Lilo and other liberal hacks on this board. I guess I shouldn't be surprised though.

I hear the new black panther party will be rioting in Fl. if Zimmerman is found not guilty. Why?? Just to stir up shit.

That's when they should bring out the fire hoses and police dogs.

I'm tempted to open a laundry business here. I could make a fortune cleaning all the white sheets.

I'm sickened by what I'm reading here, but that's my own personal beliefs.

I went back through the three pages in this thread, just in case I missed anything. There's nothing that is KKK-like here. But go ahead, SC, play the race card too.

Nope it wouldn't. It also wouldn't get nearly the same coverage if it was a black-on-white crime, which happens by a 16-1 ratio. And you can sure as hell bet that the libs on this forum wouldn't be all up in arms if it was a black-on-white crime. The only reason they care about this is because it's the other way around. The racial component of it pisses them off more than the actual incident itself. But they'll never admit that.

Uh, your "That's when they should bring out the fire hoses and police dogs" is a direct reference to the actions of segregationist Alabama governor George Wallace during the Birmingham civil rights movement of the 1960's. I'd say that fits the definition of disgusting KKK-like quite nicely.

I don't deny blacks were repressed for centuries in this country and that was wrong. There are still white trash hicks out there who spray the n-word around like the spit coming from their toothless mouths. However, today is a different world. Black people are not discriminated against to the point where they can't go into certain bathrooms, hotels, restaurants, or even water fountains.

To hell with it. I will not apologize for something I didn't do. I'm not a racist or a hateful person. But the problems black communities face across the country today are not my problem and not my fault. I am not "the oppressive white man". I'm a guy trying to make his way in the world, and I don't judge people based on skin color.

As for Trayvon are you really defending this kid? So Zimmerman tried to play cop, that was wrong, but Martin attacking him and beating up is equally as wrong. Trayvon was wrongly profiled, he probably wasn't up to anything bad. At the same time he was known for violence and drug usage (not just weed) and when he was provoked he unjustifiably struck back. Zimmerman may have been creeping on the kid but I highly doubt his intent was to kill him. Trayvon Martin was not a person that deserved death. He is certainly not the blueprint for all black people. But he was not some innocent sweet kid either. And I stand by that and the fact that this is a grade A bullshit case created by the media and other outside forces.

Completely agree

Careful, little man. I might ask you for an apology for that.

I wonder why this case didn't get nearly as much coverage?
http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/T...N504741?subj=14

Everything and everyone talking about this topic is a sick M-F

I meant every word of that. It worked then. The difference is, back then blacks actually had a good reason to be upset; though there is never a good reason to riot and burn the town down. That's what I'm talking about. The possibility of there being riots if Zimmerman is found not guilty. But, hey, there are always other options. Tear gas and rubber bullets would work just as well.



Translation...is that some sort of threat?

Listen. I am sorry if I offended anyone. I am not racist, and I am not going reference how I have black friends as a means to justify my comments. I believe in 100% equality, meaning everyone should be treated equally, and should not be given detrimental NOR beneficial treatment based on past harms. As a member of a distinct caucasion minority (trust me SC, the klan doesn't allow membership to people of my background) whose people have suffered GRAVE WRONGS I would not ask anyone to treat me any different just because of those past things.
I will focus my comments on the case itself. Its a crap case; does that mean a jury wont convict Zimmerman? No, history is riddled with terrible verdicts. Talk to an objective lawyer with knowledge of criminal law and who maybe even did a little work in that area and they will tell you the same thing. Take out the political BS window dressing, and what do you have left? A severely weak case.

Your apologies will fall on deaf ears. Unless you agree with the people you're apologizing to here, including believing Treyvon to be a saint and Zimmerman to be the devil himself, you're a racist in their book.

For the very same reason not nearly as much coverage was done about the black guy who attacked the white woman in her home in Jersey and was caught on the baby camera. People, especially libs, don't like to admit it but black-on-white crime is so common (a 16-1 ratio) that it doesn't make news. Nobody is surprised by it. But white-on-black crime? Hoooo boy! That's when all the race-baiters with their agendas come out of the woodwork and the libs, including on this board, eat it up.

Nope. But consider this a warning .... check your smug and arrogant attitude at the door before you come here. Remember, you've been warned now.

I totally agree with you. TM was minding his own business. I hate to disappoint my fellow conservatives but Zimmerman was in the wrong. He needs to pay for the murder of Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman followed him, profiled him and picked a fight with him but lost the fight and decided to shoot him. He didn't even need hospital attention because it wasn't that serious. Racism is alive and well in America but just as bad as the 50's. It's just now you have in the closet racist bastards.

I'm sure you think you are right on target with your thoughts SB....BUT you dance around a ton of well know facts in the case! So you reasoning starts to ready like a fairy tale of an excuse.

and I hope you feel better- all this talk of throwing up worrys me, or is it just some drama queen coming out once again?

and I love how everyone keeps talking about he was just out buying candy, yeah he had the munchies after getting high....( thats a joke people)

I have to stay up later at night. Seems like there is more going on.

Throwing the racist card is getting real old.

I want to hear facts! if all you have is the racist crap they you have little if nothing as far as I can see.

This talk about sheets and looking in the mirror is pure crap in itself. and then when people get upset they are undertones made. But attacking people with the race card is just fine when played by some people and not ok when others defend themselves.

What happen to a level playing feild- lets play fair here folks. Because some things are starting to smell around here.

give facts not bull.

SB, really The treatment of "Blacks" years ago
(three paragraphs about the treatment of blacks and all anyone responds to is Trayvon)
can not be used as an excuse of why people do things in todays society. People must be accountable for their actions.
and keep saying someone did something this way or that way because people thought this way years ago is not a fact of why this happened today, it just becomes a poor excuse to trying to explain a bad choice in ones actions.

I wasn't offended, I'm actually glad when people express their true feelings.

The facts on the ground are that the young man was walking from point A to point B...Zimmerman called 911 dispatcher.....was advised NOT to follow the young man......decided to disregard law enforcement's advice....followed targeted and confronted the young man, and the young man ended up dead.



Unless you view Trayvon or people who look like him as subhuman, why can't you see that the young man died because of a series of choices that Zimmerman made?

When human beings sense danger...the reaction is either fight or flight

Young teen of your particular background is walking down the street and followed by a guy in a car/truck and he feels afraid, he will either fight or run...you know, normal HUMAN responses.

+1 Threatening to do something if you don't get your way is so wrong.

and holy crap- is there a stomach flu going on around here- I think I better go and clean my keyboard before I catch something.