8 years for a fucking associate? Dont give me this shit about Massimino's criminal history, the base the judge started with was 8 for a low level associate. You would have to be completely stunad to think 8 years for an associate is proper. Jesus they are hanging these guys. Its like Mousie said, "these laws are for trees".

does uncle joe plead out, his record cant be bad. its like 1 gambling charge, his murder got tossed say they offer 5 he got 2 in out in2 more and halfway house. he beat a lot of the rico's . they gave this guy aurthor g from boston a bid like this but he had some arson in his case plus he's zip connelys brother in law. I was think 10 12 yrs 16 kinda over kill cruel and unusual punishment I bet he appeals on that ground or some shit. it works the higher judges reduce it a little. dieing in jail over poker machines sick only in America. for all the leagal guys, if George bogesi beat all his charges and they hung up on the rico conspiracy charge. I thought you have to be found guilty of 2 predicate acts, he beat them all. what is a rico case with out 2 or more crimes? if he just bein charged as a member of the lcn. never seen this before.

PMAC like you stated it is basically a waste of money for the government to retry uncle joe and georgie obviously the govt has egg on its face and pissed they didnt get them the first go around but georgie has been locked up for what 12 years and should have been free for 2, they really want these murder cases to get solved and kill the philly mob for once and for all i suppose

16 years ! thats harsh regardless of his history. bit of gambling no murders wow!!