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Re: Today's Outfit
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07/15/13 10:06 PM
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thebigfella
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Here's the thing, either johny and his pals are retired or thier not, if thier retired how can they tell elmwood not to make anyone, when marcello was on the streets he had the power to make guys and I was wondering if jimmy I had the same power if he was chosen to take his place
"McGurn likes you, so I make you. So you are now one of us, if you fuck up, we take it out on McGurn. He is your sponsor. Fuck up, it's his ass. You work in his crew, he is your capo."
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Re: Today's Outfit
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07/16/13 03:58 AM
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HuronSocialAthletic
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Chicago, I'd like you to break down Jimmy I's story for everyone. Where he began, where he ended up after he did his stint (13 years was it?), how he ended up in Cicero, street boss of the entire Outfit, and how people STILL don't know his name, despite all of this. He's still, even with where he's at right now, an unknown name to most casuals. How has he maintained such a low profile, managed to stay out of the headlines & public eye (minus the hired truck & Loren Maltese fiascos), & risen to the top so quietly. Did he take advantage of all the heat Jimmy Light was getting, and use it to quietly get the street rackets back on track? Why does Elmwood still take all of the heat for him & Cicero in the press?
Definitely the most fascinating Outfit figure of modern times. Interested to hear your take & what you know about the man himself.
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Re: Today's Outfit
[Re: HuronSocialAthletic]
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07/16/13 04:44 AM
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Years ago, Melrose Park and most of the West Suburbs were controlled by the Taylor St Crew. The Capo within the extended Taylor St Crew that handled the West Suburbs was Sam Battaglia. Battaglia was headquartered in Melrose Park. He would hold Court there with delinquent juice victims and show them the errors in their ways of not paying their juice loans on time. This is where it started. Over the last 25 years, Melrose Park Street rackets have been controlled by the Cicero Crew. Sometimes they have been referred to as the Cicero/Melrose Park Crew. It's the same thing.
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Re: Today's Outfit
[Re: Chicago]
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07/16/13 04:58 AM
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The Outfit generally rewards loyalty.
Jimmy I & Solly D. are very capable Outfit men who have done a lot of time in prison and remained loyal.
Jimmy Inendino, Solly DeLaurentis, Sal Cataudella and Frank Caruso (26th St.) are your 4 top men in the Dominent (Cicero) and Sub Dominent (26Th St) Crews in the Outfit. They are the Southern Groups.
There has been a lot of attrition based upon prison. Jimmy Marcello would have been the Top Boss in the Outfit, but he is never coming back.
Elmwood Park & Grand Ave get mentioned because of John DiFronzo and Joey Lombardo (who is now gone in prison and will never return).
Those two guys retreated from the Outfit years ago. It is their reputation that gets Elmwood Park and Grand Ave mentioned, nothing more.
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Re: Today's Outfit
[Re: HuronSocialAthletic]
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07/16/13 05:20 AM
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HuronSocialAthletic, I talked a little about Jimmy Inendino. I can talk about him more, but I actually have a couple of questions myself that I want to check out first.
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Re: Today's Outfit
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07/16/13 12:34 PM
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I do not know a ton about The Outfit, but this thread has been more revealing and educational than any other Chicago-oriented thread I have read on here in a couple of years.
If my understanding is correct, it seems as though DiFronzo genuinely has no role anymore in Outfit affairs. Clearly, he holds the clout to insert himself in what is going on if he wants based upon his power, wealth and history. My question is this: Do you guys think that the true Outfit players (those actually involved in illegal activity) pay DiFronzo any tribute at all? If not, then it seems as though the Cicero crew is really what we all understand as the Outfit. If this is the case, who is at the top of the Outfit. Which of those people mentioned (in prison or out) is the actual boss?
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Re: Today's Outfit
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07/16/13 01:03 PM
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I do not know a ton about The Outfit, but this thread has been more revealing and educational than any other Chicago-oriented thread I have read on here in a couple of years.
If my understanding is correct, it seems as though DiFronzo genuinely has no role anymore in Outfit affairs. Clearly, he holds the clout to insert himself in what is going on if he wants based upon his power, wealth and history. My question is this: Do you guys think that the true Outfit players (those actually involved in illegal activity) pay DiFronzo any tribute at all? If not, then it seems as though the Cicero crew is really what we all understand as the Outfit. If this is the case, who is at the top of the Outfit. Which of those people mentioned (in prison or out) is the actual boss? I don't have a great answer for you, but one result of virtually zero Outfit related arrests let alone large scale prosecutions in recent years is a cloak of anonymity descending over the Outfit. It's been about five years since Family Secrets now. No one really learned that much at the Sarno trial. With each year that passes and we move further away from any big arrests or prosecutions that reveal substantial revelatory information, people have to speculate more and more.
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Re: Today's Outfit
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07/16/13 01:36 PM
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Difronzo is retired from day to day operations, u can say jimmy I is acting boss in the same manner marcello was, with that being said difronzo is semi retired keeping the title of actual boss, and as long as he got that title the outfit have to kickup, unless he dies then jimmy I will become the real boss
"McGurn likes you, so I make you. So you are now one of us, if you fuck up, we take it out on McGurn. He is your sponsor. Fuck up, it's his ass. You work in his crew, he is your capo."
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Re: Today's Outfit
[Re: thebigfella]
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07/16/13 01:55 PM
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Difronzo is retired from day to day operations, u can say jimmy I is acting boss in the same manner marcello was, with that being said difronzo is semi retired keeping the title of actual boss, and as long as he got that title the outfit have to kickup, unless he dies then jimmy I will become the real boss I agree with you, The Big Fella. When Johnny is gone, that's it for his brother, also. Andriacchi wouldn't stand in the way because he probably doesn't care. He's rich enough and in ill health.
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