That's a bigger joke than the one in Manhattan

Bridgeport
Elmwood
Norridge
Melrose
River Forest
Forest Park
River Grove
Stone Park
All those are still heavy Italian areas
And the Little Italy of course isn't what it used to be but there's still Italians there and it's not completely a tourist area. I've been to Manhattan's as well. Chicago's little Italy is much better compared to Manhattan's where there is no more than 5 Italian businesses.

Yeah I know about the insurance and mortgage scams. I'm talking about gambling and bookmaking.

How many black and Latino gangs do that in the suburbs? White people aren't going in the hood or barrio for that. They will trust Italians and their non-Italian associates, who look more like them. Just like when the Italians took over the black and Spanish numbers game, they still had to use black runners and Puerto Rican bodegas.

I'd say heavily is quite an overstatement. List the % of those populations that are Italian. I bet 5-15%.

Anyway, my point is that you don't need heavily Italian areas in order for the mob to exist. What you need is white people who gamble

There are plenty of white people who gamble in Chicago. Many of the placed I listed are over 20-30%. Take a drive down the places I mentioned, Italian flags and businesses everywhere.

The census bureau doesnt agree. There could be some small enclaves like that but not overall

Bridgeport has not been heavily Italian in 30 years. Most of Bridgeport and the surrounding area is black. There is a small enclave of Irish/Italian in Bridgeport. Melrose Park and Stone Park are predominantly Mexican now.

Elmwood Park is still heavily Italian. Norridge has plenty of Italians but is mixed. River Forest and River Grove are mixed, but still have plenty of Italians. Forest Park I have no idea.

Other areas with a lot of Italians are the NW burbs, like Palatine, Des Plaines, Arlington Heights, etc. although these are newer areas, so the dominance of any group is not really there.

2. Actually most of the Chicago oriented gangs are involved in some gambling. But mobsters wouldn't have to worry because the gang members kept the gambling (dice games,dog fighting, card games) to their local area. I have NEVER heatd of any street gang involved in bookmaking. I read about BGF in Cali been involved in bookmaking though.

Bridgeport is much more than a small enclave of Irish and Italian. The whole neighborhood. And the census bureau may not agree but I'm sure you've never even been to Bridgeport so don't act like you know what it's like.

You are right about stone park though. The Italians are still politicians in stone park. Mexicans are sadly taking over some of the good Italian neighborhoods.

homewood
chicago heights
south chicago heights
lansing
thornton
and a few other spots have a decent number of italians

Casabella, Benito 1, Ferraras, caffe napoli, cafe palermo, spqr, la nonna...... More than 5. Sorry nicky, your a liar. Is that gun shop still there? I forget its name.... Its ch*nk owned now.... just another tourist shop, but the big ass gun sign is still there. Theyre hoping some yokel from arkansas saw meanstreets and walks into their store hahaha

John Jovino's yeah, plus maybe half a dozen delicatessens, a few other little things, Bari restaurant supplies, but yeah almost all Chinese now

Casabella, Benito 1, Ferraras, caffe napoli, cafe palermo, spqr, la nonna...... More than 5. Sorry nicky, your a liar. Is that gun shop still there? I forget its name.... Its ch*nk owned now.... just another tourist shop, but the big ass gun sign is still there. Theyre hoping some yokel from arkansas saw meanstreets and walks into their store hahaha[/quote]
When I was there all I saw were two pizza places, a bakery, and the Church. Might be more than 5 but not much more than that.

we dont want you fuckers here anyways, none of you know how to drive

Chicagoans are good drivers!

your to slow! if you dont have ny/nj liscense plates ill tailgate u, cut u off, go slow, honk at u then give you the finger... Hoping you will go homr to chicago saying to ur friends "dont ever drive in ny theyre fucking crazy!"

They honk before the light even turns green!

It's why the mob is into sports betting the most. Mainly white clientele.

the syndicate didn't have policy for long in Chicago

the stones and disciples weren't allowing that on the southside

then they legalized policy into the state lottery

They had it for about 20 years in Chicago and about 50 years in NY.

Agents still take policy in ny/nj. Even the suburb guys do.

like you siad ny guys ar ein florida, new jersey, CT and MA already.... but be real gambling aint as big as it used to be, and loansharking aint what ti used o be... yeah they got slot machines in some of thier klow key clubs... and they got the few knuckleheads dumbenought o borrow money from them but th emajority of people would just go toa casino a racetrack, or get a loan from a someone familiar or do it the legal way.

That's part of the reason why sports betting is the biggest money maker for the mob. It's still illegal and hasn't been cut into the way other forms of gambling have.

and for shakedowns most restaraunt owners would just call the law, and most drug dealers got just as many bad motherfuckers in thier corner as the ones doing the shakes.... they still gotstrip clubs though.

thats true.. and most of them got there betting offices and phones in the carribean like dpomincan republic puerto rico etc... some in florida

Adult businesses like strip clubs and porn shops are still favorite targets for extortion. Also companies involved in industries where the mob still has union clout, i.e. construction, trucking, waterfront, etc. And even in recent years there have been examples of mob shakedowns of restaurants, nightclubs, lunch truck vendors, etc.

Thats treu, i cant even tell ya how many guys around here either have no show jobs with the uions or use there union job to legitimize thier earnings.... but at the sae time alot of the dealers aound here are blue collar guys in the union nd they go to work and make a paycheck n the jobsite put also push thier goods during the work day.. knwon fact.

alot of the younger wiseguys around here r actually apart of the teamsters and drive around movie starts when they film movies in boston haaaha.. one of them is duilio 'lelo' fabbo. low level guy.