the bd's had dogfighting operations, dice games, and card games

policy was started by black people which was legalized into the state lottery

They was B.Gs, not it's just New Breeds. Here's an episode from Vice on Chicago gang violence: http://youtu.be/W0HZZtTtq_E
As you can see the members refer to themselves as New Breed not BGs nor New Breed BGs. By the way the Vill location wasn't Southside but Westside.

Dude I don't have it wrong. The complete name is New Breed Black Gangsters. Most of the old times still use Black Gangster most of the young guys call themselves New Breeds, but even the youngsters still will be like I swear on New Breed Black Gangster. I'm around these people everyday I know what I'm talking about.

Oh wow! I love it when people quote tv shows are a credible source. I can play you 5 shows and each one will have 5 different versions of the history. I prefer to quote people of live this stuff. As I said before most young cats will say just New Breed, but I can show you home videos where guys are shout New Breed Black Gangster or just Black Gangster. It depends on the person. Most older cats will say Black Gangster. Was you at Bonnie Blacks funeral? If you were I guarantee you would have heard people saying both. Do you know any Don's of the organization? I do! Ask one of them how it goes. Listen them when they talk I guarantee you will hear both terms used when referring to the organization. You seem to be getting a lot of your information from TV shows, and books which aren't always accurate. I'm telling you from being around these guys from the old school and new school. I know/knew personally many of these guys you are reading about.

I wasn't using it as source but proof. I haven't seen too many shows on New Breeds and the ones that mentioned them just refer to them as New Breeds. If your point is that it depends on the individuals then that makes both of us right. There's obvious difference in credibility between us; Location, Age, and Resource. Majority of my info comes from websites, news articles, interviews, etc. You know that's a futile remark asking me do I know of any "Dons", I could bounce that question right at you. Do you know of any "Chiefs" in my city? No you don't. For all of your credible source through associations you rarely post in-depth threads. Half of these Chicago street orgs posts comes from me, Scorsese, and a very few others. I'll be fully intrigued when you share your 2 cents instead of criticizing replies. By the way, there new breeds in the Sip too.

Bro I haven't/wasn't critizing your post sorry if you took that way. What is your city ?I might know Don's and chiefs there. I have travelled a little bit. But if they not Don's and Chiefs from Chicago or did time with Chicago guys I would question their knowledge of the history. Especially if they are younger. I am often amused when I go out of town and talk to people. I recall when funny incident when a guy kept talking about Jeff "Ford" and how Chief Malik took over after "Ford" died. I learned something that day because I thought Jeff Fort and Chief Malik was the same person and that he is alive serving time in Federal Prison. My commment doesn't make both of us right it just goes to show how much misinformation is out here and most of it stems from people jsut spreading what the here without really checking the source from which it's came from. I was asking you about knowing Don's because it often gets to me when people who haven't came up in certain things try and speak as if they are such an authority becaue of some video. And when one watches a video they can often be misleading if it isn't watched in it's full context That's with anything not just gangs. When you say Sip are u referring to Missippi? I met Breeds there as well as many Chicago based gangs and L.A. based gangs to. Asfar as my in-depth threads is there something you would like me to post more on? Well bro sorry if you thought I was critising you that wasn't my internt. Peace Out!

No apologies needed just a misunderstood. I'm from Columbus. The chances of you knowing of anybody here is slim, except a few who move here for their reasons. Besides there only VLs,4CHs, GDs, and SCRs here. I don't take too much info a face value either and do multiple sources. That's why I'm so stubbornly disagreeing, when you research/investigate different sources and find a common recurring info then it seems semi-solid. That video was just one of many reference of members, law enforcement, and opposition called them the same name. Yes locals refer to Mississippi as the Sip or even Zip. Where have you meet New Breeds at down here? Chicago based gangs dominate the scene here due to the past and L.A are minor except a few spots. Any historic info on the Black Souls? I can hardly find any in depth history on them nor King Wee, quite an air of mystery around them. Peace.

Ok Columbus. I been down there a time or two. Are u familiar with a group which one may consider all a super gang/Car/mega gang called the Black "Gorilla" Family? The go by that name but they are made up of GDs, Bloods, VL and a few other gangs. I had a chance to sit down and speak with them once

What specifically are u looking to find on Black Souls? I can try and holla at some old timers the ones that are left and on the street that is. This new generation running around here don't know a lot of the history.

I'm not sure if it was Columbus or Jackson, but I met some cats claiming Breed. I thin that got plugged in when they was locked up. That was some years ago can't call recall for sue.

I'm quite familiar with them since half of them was my classmates. Where, When & Who did you speak to specifically? Black Gorilla Family is/was a rap clique. I doubt there any bloods/crips in that clique just VLs & GDs. Can you post a video of a old head discussing the history of black souls? If not, a document/report of their history and founder? Every other Internet source have only about 3 short general paragraphs on them.

Is this ''Black Gorilla Family'' Jama , or is it a localized version of a gang conglomerate down there?

Neither. Rap clique. They was given some attention due to fights in the club and streets. Police started to label them a gang and they had a meeting in the police department to inform them there not a gang.

One of them called himself a piru blood. Getting an old head on video to talk hmmmm I'll see some of them cats are real funny about stuff like that. This one guy I'm thinking about in particular would be an excellent source for the history. Haven't seen him in none of his usual places but I let people know I'm looking for him so hopefully he get at me if he still around

Oh yeah I forgot about that 1 blood. If it's a matter of privacy than audio could do. Thanks for your time.

I forgot this part. It was about 5 maybe 6 year ago in Columbus. The interview with them took place in a housing development that they referred to as "The Bricks" I spoke with several of them one name I recall is gangsterboii he acted as the main spokesman. I had a nice recorded dialogue with them but somehow thetape got messed up. It must only be one high school in Columber because everytime I talk to someone they say the same thing that they went to high school with most or all of those guys lol

Even I wasn't sure where nor why they called that location "The Bricks" . There's several projects/apartments in town.Yes again gangstaboi was a classmate and we only have 1 high school on my city.

more black disciples busted
Eight gang members charged with drug trafficking

Associated Press
Story Created: Fri Nov 1, 2013 1:58 PM
Story Updated: Fri Nov 1, 2013 1:58 PM
CHICAGO (AP) - Eight alleged members of a major Chicago street gang have been charged with trafficking heroin and cocaine in the city.

The acting head of Chicago's FBI office, Robert Shields, Jr., and Chicago's new U.S. attorney, Zachary Fardon, announced the charges against the purported Black Disciples on Friday.

The FBI says one suspect was arrested in Peoria and six in Chicago. One evaded arrest.

The arrests come a week after Fardon was sworn in. Several politicians have urged him to target gangs and make the reduction of street violence a higher priority.

Those arrested include Darnell McMiller, whose alleged nickname is "Murder." A complaint cites him bragging on a wiretap that he carries out "hits" for his supplier.

A message seeking comment from McMiller's attorney wasn't immediately returned Friday.

the indictment is on the feds page

this article ain't really informative

IM a gone head and keep it chop as a current outstanding member of the B.D.N. First and foremost I'm a six point B.D. king shorty king may he rest in peace.. you can bet your life there is one man calling it for the entire nation..of course i cannot disclose his name. Two yea its true a lot of set don't honor shit these young brothers and this "Renegade" fufu business is out of hand..i don't believe in renegades i just say they are fake. it you don't honor the nation or those whom founded it ,then your not apart of it period ..no question ... to be honest there is more structure in the branches in the other states than in Chicago it's self.

yes ..famo you hit that right on the head Joe ..word of mouth ..cant depend on the white man T.V. show for true information on a black org..????..they know for lying

Welcome to the board, shortyfam. We been discussing the nature of these renegade factions. Major focus on them due to the violence but in due time a change will come. Where's your dynasty from? Which city you would say have the most structure in your org?

What about the 30 block Cg renegades? They spread all over after the buildings went down, the 6-7 guys calling it now, have the shit running so smooth. Also theres no honor how the fuck do you still talk about honor in mobs lol. The renegades are the only reason shortys got to eat.

@SgWaue86

I meant to ask you when you were referring to that GD faction from the greens, what did C.C stood for?