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Re: Michael killing the Turk
[Re: Turnbull]
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06/16/19 07:19 PM
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That second shot was from a different gunman...on the grassy knoll.
Yes. We heard the gunshot on a Dictabelt carried by a motorcycle cop outside Louis Restaurant.  I believe that the film was altered by MGM agents.
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Re: Michael killing the Turk
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06/17/19 02:33 AM
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That second shot was from a different gunman...on the grassy knoll.
Yes. We heard the gunshot on a Dictabelt carried by a motorcycle cop outside Louis Restaurant. Which reminds me of this dialogue from Sonny: "Now listen...I want somebody good --- and I mean very good, to plant that gun.
I don't want my brother to come out of that toilet with just his dictabelt in his hands. Allright."
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Re: Michael killing the Turk
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06/17/19 02:44 AM
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Did you notice however, that it did take Michael a bit to find it? Remember he had to feel around a little? I always thought that was a nice touch to that scene.  It seemed for a brief moment we saw a little panic/fear in Michael's face as he was feeling around for the gun, as though he was thinking it wasn't there. It wasn't like he just reached and retrieved it right away. TIS With all of the searching and reaching for the gun that Michael did, I would think that some or part of Michael's finger prints got on the gun, on the part of the gun that wasn't taped. With a Captain being executed, you'd think the Dept. would go over the gun very thoroughly. But, I guess that there wasn't enough there to work with. Imagine that poor waiter being interrogated as to what the shooter looked like.
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Re: Michael killing the Turk
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06/17/19 02:52 PM
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That small pistol doesn't have enough flat surface areas to get a full,unsmeared, identifiable clean print. If you touch something and touch it again fingerprints overlap and they're worthless. They didn't have very sophisticated means of fingerprinting and zero DNA testing then either. Not like today where they'd use the super glue vapor in a chamber to stick to the oils left behind with the print or computers that can match prints. And even then it's very hard to get clean prints and they aren't enough to convict someone of a crime in court if that's the only evidence. I'm sure the waiter wouldn't have identified Micheal or he would have "disappeared". Tom wouldn't have allowed Micheal to be fingerprinted or they would have gotten the prints throw out, etc. Micheal's fingerprints are already on record as a serviceman, no??
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Re: Michael killing the Turk
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06/17/19 04:02 PM
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Before the hit, Clemenza tells Michael not to worry about prints because he put a "special tape" on the trigger and butt. I have no idea whether that's an actual thing.
But Michael probably did touch other parts of the gun when he pulled it out from behind the toilet tank.
Last edited by The Last Woltz; 06/17/19 04:03 PM.
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