I'm sure this has been discussed and I apologize in advance. That said, anyone know the names of any non full blooded Italians who were made? The names of the individuals and the families they were inducted in would be great. I know John Veasey, John Gotti jr., and Steve Flemmi were not full blooded. Are there any more? Any guys with no Italian heritage at all?

Steve Flemmi turned down his button I think you mean frank "Cadillac frank" salemme who was half Irish and eventually boss of the patriarcas and he made his son frank jr who was only one quarter Italian

It is also possible that Frank Narducci jr of Philadelphia may not be Italian he was adopted by Bruno family soldier\capo Chickie Narducci but I don't know if he's Italian or another ethnicity

Jimmy marcello was half irish. But im sure in new york there were quite a few half italians who were made bc in the 90s they changed the rules that u only had to be italian on your fathers side(meaning having an italian last name) to be made.

Andrew Campos, Craig DePalma, and John Gotti Jr.

I've counted it's in the teens as far as I know of, between the 90's and now there's allot more however I'd say 75 percent of them is due to a father or uncle or other relative who's already a member,but don't kid yourself into thinking they would hold it against a guy if he was earnig enough, how about Andy from NJ he had a legal name change

I did mean Frank Selleme, thanks

The Outfit had also non-Italian groups/made guys.

Ivy said there were two of em in Detroit as well around the 70's.

Every family had a high ranking non-Italian unmade member. Murray Humphreys, Milton Rockman, Max Jaben, Joe Watts, Raynald Desjardins, Hugh McIntosh.

Chucky Porter was made in Pittsburgh, though he flipped. Richard Cain was half Irish and probably made.

I think that i also heard about that

Dick Cain was probably one of the more fascinating figures in Outfit history....Gangster/Cook County Sheriff/alleged CIA Operative/alleged FBI Informant...A busy and fascinating guy lol

There's never been a made member of any Mafia family that didn't have at least some Italian blood. Ever.

That said, there's been several guys who were only Italian on their father's side. And even a few who were only Italian on their mother's side. Some made guys who weren't 100% Italian included...


Frank "Cadillac Frank" Salemme
John "Junior" Gotti
John "Jackie" Salemme
James "Jimmy" Marcello
Charles "Chucky" Porter
Albert "Kid Blast" Gallo
Craig DePalma
Andrew "Andy" Campos
James "Jimmy" Martorano
Joseph "The Nodder" Sodano
Vincent (Filipelli) Philipps
Joseph "The Beach Bum" Massei
Joseph "Crazy Joe" Gallo
Lawrence "Larry" Gallo
John Veasey
Frank Salemme Jr.
Robert "Bobby the Tiger" La Puma
Andrew "Andy Knapik" Merola

well Ivy there could at least one person Michael Franzese he was adopted by sonny .unless he came from his wife,Or thay knew the blood line .Carmine did not like sonny. This i know first hand just never asked around after i herd it.

Good list Ivy but again I have to respectfully disagree about the three Gallo brothers, your the only source if ever heard that from, if be glad to change my kind though if I saw some evidence , also John Gotti Jr is honestly a technicality he's 75 percent Italian meaning three Italian grandparents, the rest of those guys had only 2 or in the case of Frank S Jr even one

Ludwig Ninny Bruschi

Always wondered about him (Ludwig?!).

Is the name Bruschi Italian? Anyone have any info on his lineage?

Thanks in advance.

Didn't Michael say in his book that, after he thought he had been adopted for years, he later found out he was in fact Sonny's son?

I dont know i was going off memory it must of been a card game or sitting by the pool or maybe even the girls could of said it .I for sure never asked anyone made . I am going to find out .

Andy Campos is full Italian.

Andrew Campos mother is Italian and father is Puerto rican

Can I ask your sources?

Carmela say: you do search on here, you find verwy verwy many posts already on Andrew Campos.

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=721345&page=1

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post706869

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=680529&page=1

They may as well disable the search function because it seems your the only one who takes the time to use it

My thanks Carmela.

Feds said he was full Italian around the time of that huge case.

Ask anyone on Belmont or Arthur Avenue or better yet go to his old schoolmates at Mt St Michael, they will tell you what nationality really is.

Strange that the Feds would say that, but you sound like you know what you're talking about so ill take your word for it.

[quote=Beanshooter]Ask anyone on Belmont or Arthur Avenue. [/qquote]Ive tried, but my Albanian has been a little rusty since I graduated high school

ITS ALL A JOKE... YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE AN ITALIAN LAST NAME OR BE A TOP EARNER WITH ANY KIND OF LAST NAME... LA FAKE NOSTRA.

MOST RECENT

BILLY ANGELESCO WHO HAS HALF IRISH WAS INDUCTED TO NEW ENGLAND FAMILY IN 2001-2002

GREG COSTA- IS PORTUGUESE AND A SUPPOSED MADE MAN

ITS ALL SUCH A JOKE THESE DAYS... IVE SIAD A MILLION TIMES BUT THE ONES WHO R OUT THERE DOING DIRT ARE SPANISH/BLACK/ASIAN GANGS AND BIKERS.

or be willing to kill suckers for them