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Re: Non Italian made members
[Re: lic]
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08/10/13 11:14 PM
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ITS ALL A JOKE... YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE AN ITALIAN LAST NAME OR BE A TOP EARNER WITH ANY KIND OF LAST NAME... LA FAKE NOSTRA.
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BILLY ANGELESCO WHO HAS HALF IRISH WAS INDUCTED TO NEW ENGLAND FAMILY IN 2001-2002
GREG COSTA- IS PORTUGUESE AND A SUPPOSED MADE MAN There have been several made guys who were not full Italian but they still had Italian blood and, almost always, an Italian last name. Only a few were Italian only on their mother's side. There has never been a guy made who wasn't at least partially Italian. But all of these are the exceptions to the rule. Just because a guy has an Italian last name, doesn't mean he's going to get made. Nor will a non-Italian simply because he makes a lot of money. If that were the case, a guy like Joe Watts would have got his finger pricked a long time ago.
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Re: Non Italian made members
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08/11/13 12:11 AM
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Greg Scarpa Jr, The Grim Reaper's original wife's name was Connie Forrest. Also Senior's family came from Venezia ie far northern Italy which was traditionally a no no
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Re: Non Italian made members
[Re: SonnyL]
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08/20/13 08:19 PM
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I'm sure this has been discussed and I apologize in advance. That said, anyone know the names of any non full blooded Italians who were made? The names of the individuals and the families they were inducted in would be great. I know John Veasey, John Gotti jr., and Steve Flemmi were not full blooded. Are there any more? Any guys with no Italian heritage at all? Steve Flemmi turned down his button I think you mean frank "Cadillac frank" salemme who was half Irish and eventually boss of the patriarcas and he made his son frank jr who was only one quarter Italian It is also possible that Frank Narducci jr of Philadelphia may not be Italian he was adopted by Bruno family soldier\capo Chickie Narducci but I don't know if he's Italian or another ethnicity I said this in a recent thread. But if Frankie Narducci was adopted in infancy and he grew up italian then I would consider him italian American. Because his last name is italian and being italian is in his blood.
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Re: Non Italian made members
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08/20/13 09:12 PM
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If you're not italian/irish/german/american/african...you're not. Your dna is what it is, you can't be something you're not, just because you're adopted and grew up within a certain culture. Culture is one thing, but your dna is another. When this person has children you consider them having italian genes too, because their father was adopted into an italian family? lol I would consider them italian yes! Lol. Because the last name sticks with them and their legal father and grandparents ancenstry would be traced back to Italy. In terms of genes thats a little complicated because in the end I really believe that we all came from one place anyway so. So, if I go out and change my last name to an Italian surname tomorrow, I'm suddenly Italian? Sorry, it doesn't work like that.
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Re: Non Italian made members
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08/20/13 09:23 PM
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But if you changed your surname it wouldn't trace back anywhere. Your legal parents aren't italian so you wouldn't be italian. Except that wouldn't go beyond the paper it was printed on. It doesn't change one's DNA. Using the same hypothetical scenario, even if it were possible to falsify my family's historical records going back as far as possible, it wouldn't make me Italian. And you aren't italian? I was under the impression that everyone on this site for the most part was. Not that it matters. No, both sides of my family come from England. There are lots of posters on these OC forums that are not Italian.
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Re: Non Italian made members
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08/20/13 09:36 PM
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Falsifying records? I think you're going too far lol. If someones your parents then they are your parents. Legally they are your parents. If it says on that paper that so and so is your mother an father than they are. In a court of law it would say joe is your father whether he is your biological father or not. If it says it on that paper, then that's what it is. Lets say, I adopted a boy at infancy and he had a project in school where he had to trace back his ancenstry. I'm not going to say, "Well your German". In going to say "You grew up Italian with me and your mother, you have my last name, you are italian. My ancestry goes back to Italy, therefore, so does yours". No, the boy's real ancestry is from wherever his biological parents were from. This is something that can't be changed by the courts, upbringing, etc. Somebody may be recognized legally as something, but that doesn't change what they actually are.
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Re: Non Italian made members
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08/20/13 09:50 PM
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I'm sure this has been discussed and I apologize in advance. That said, anyone know the names of any non full blooded Italians who were made? The names of the individuals and the families they were inducted in would be great. I know John Veasey, John Gotti jr., and Steve Flemmi were not full blooded. Are there any more? Any guys with no Italian heritage at all? Steve Flemmi turned down his button I think you mean frank "Cadillac frank" salemme who was half Irish and eventually boss of the patriarcas and he made his son frank jr who was only one quarter Italian It is also possible that Frank Narducci jr of Philadelphia may not be Italian he was adopted by Bruno family soldier\capo Chickie Narducci but I don't know if he's Italian or another ethnicity I said this in a recent thread. But if Frankie Narducci was adopted in infancy and he grew up italian then I would consider him italian American. Because his last name is italian and being italian is in his blood. no being italian is not in his blood, just because he was raised as an italian does not make him of italian descent, but like i said before i dont know what ethnicity his biological parents were so it is possible that they were also italian
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Re: Non Italian made members
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NEW ENGLAND PATRIARCA
SALEMME'S MARTARANO'S COSTA'S ANGELESCO PRYCE QUINTANA- HERD HE WAS HALF JEWISH??? A REVERE OLD TIMER. Was Jimmy Martorano made? Not John, his bro
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