so cali turns down the position of Boss in July and i'm wondering does Dom cefalu want to be the boss of the family because if it wasn't cefalu who offered him the position then dead bodies would be piling so i'm confused is Cefalu still the Boss?

The only reports that he doesnt want to be boss are those 2 articles by the same idiot, and there were never confirmed or even commented on by people who might be considered oc experts. So yes as of now italian dom is still the boss.

I think it's safe to say the offer was never made. Why would Dom step down, he's having a decent run.

The guy who wrote that article wanted headlines, everyone knows Caliis the rising power in the family so he made up a lie to get readers.

+1

There are knowledgeable people who to this day believe Cefalu is just a frontman for John Gambino and Gambino is really the guy calling the shots. I have no idea if thats true or not.

Cali might be the future but he's not the boss now and i would bet "IF" Gambino really is the boss then i would keep my eye on Mannino. If Gambino had to choose between Cali and Mannino i would bet he would go with Mannino in a heartbeat.

Being married to an Inzerillo ain't what it used to be. Shit, Joe Gambino has been married to one for close to 40 years.

There are always self-proclaimed "knowledgeable" people who think they know who the "real" boss is. In reality, they're just going off who they think would be the best boss. If the FBI says Cefalu is the boss, he's the boss.

You never know Ivy. Feds usually get it right and I'm inclined to believe he's the boss too, but still you just never know. The scenario Giancarlo mentioned isn't impossible

So what if the fbi says he's boss they all work together and get that money

Ditto joeschmo

No, they really aren't "self proclaimed knowledgeable people". They are people who have been proven right over the years on different things so when they say something the people who have seen they were right on the different things over the years don't just dismiss their opinions on things. It makes them wonder if it could be true. I said i didn't know if it was true or not, but the truth is there are knowledgeable people on both sides of the Atlantic who think Cefalu is a frontman for Gambino. And while i can't prove it to you i would bet there are feds who think that too. It might not be the party line but i would bet there are federal agents (FBI, DEA) who would agree with that opinion.

I'll say it one more time...i have no idea if it's true or not. But when certain people say things it makes me and others wonder if they could be right.

I know it sounds like internet forum bullshit but the truth is they really are very knowledgeable people. lol!
I guess i'm just too inarticulate to say it in a better way.

Oh well, take care and good night.

I seriously doubt John Gambino is the boss, he's a sick old man. If he was healthy he'd definitely be the number 1 candidate.

I think he's definitely administration though, Consigliere IMO. When he goes Mannino will get bumped up to admin.

I really have no idea. I was just saying that certain people who's opinions on these subjects i highly respect have said they believe Cefalu is fronting for Gambino. But again i really have no idea if thats true or not.

It's certainly possible. But the same people that said JG cold be the boss said he was gravely ill.

One thing for sure, regardless of what rank he holds he's almost certainly the most powerful guy in the family.

You are wrong. And ive never proclaimed myself knowledgable, you have. Im not saying believe me when i say something, but im saying bc i have differing info from you doesnt mean im going off assumption. In no way do i get the bulk of my info from the same sources available to you. And if you werent always such a condesending fucking prick about it, maybe less ppl like me would feel slighted everytime you speak. If i am some self proclaimed insider why is my info good enough for you to ask who has whos crew or who runs what?


And to everybody else. Cali will be boss, unless he gets a life sentence. Mannino will always be second to cali. Gambino will never be consiglieri, the whole reason bobby glasses was there was to appeal to one crew, and the consiglieri will be a long island guy. Not exactly long island but whatever. The ppl who get what im saying get it, and ppl with blinders on wont

I dont think hes sick more than any other 80something year old.

And why wouldnt dom want to be boss? He gets tribute from 25 crews. Garbage, staten island cement, trucking, waterfront, laborers.... Not to mention street guys.. And all he does is sit in a cafe and drink espressos all day long. He may talk biz to 3-4 guys total, whats not to like?

Skinny they pay you well to sound convincing?? Everyone knows your a busta

Ok guys everyone take it easy, i really wasn't trying to start arguements over the shit. I was just throwing it out there because i really do respect the people who have said it. And they have been right about alot of things over the years thats why i respect what they say and don't automatically just dismiss it. But again i have no fucking idea if they are correct or not.

Skinny, just curious why you think Mannino will always be behind Cali? I know he gets the headlines but Mannino is a battletested guy who's loyalty to Gambino is beyond dispute. Even Gotti and Gravano thought he was the future and the only zip they actually seemed to respect. Their conversation about him was taped by the feds. You would of thought Mannino was holding a gun to their heads by all the compliments they said about him. I never heard the actual tape but the transcript of their conversation is in that book The Gotti Tapes.

So, Kev (I can still call you Kev, right?), what you're saying is felice thinks this and you respect every single thing felice says. We got it. At least I do.

Can you translate that for me?

Miss Carmela who is this scoundrel Kev you keep mentioning? But if it makes you happy you can call me whatever you want.

2 people who i really respect have mentioned that to me. One is in Italy with access to solid info over there and another guy has a pretty solid connection to the NYPD OC Unit.

This is an open forum so i really don't want to get into names. Everything that is said on this forum comes up in google searches 2 minutes after you post it. Personally i would lock down this section but it's not my forum or my call to make. I honestly have no idea if these people are right or wrong but both have had some pretty good info on different things over the years that turned out to be true so i don't just rule it out.

But all i'm saying is that people on both sides of the Atlantic who have proven at least to me that they are pretty reliable have said it. Thats why i even brought it up in the first place. People can make their own judgements.

Ivy - I don't claim to have vast amounts of street knowledge and I know you do not either. However, I am willing to accept the fact that the Feds have been HORRIBLY wrong in the past about this issue. I do not understand why you are so convinced that they cannot be wrong again.

Yes, that makes me happy!

Loosely translated: vaffanculo mamma te.

I really have no problem with what Ivy said. He's probably right that the feds are right alot more often then not. I just thought calling them "self proclaimed knowledgeable people" was wrong. It's that these people have been right about alot of things over the years that make other people think they are knowledgeable. But i never heard any of them describe themselves as that.

GC-cali is a better politician. If they wanted mannino to be the next boss they wouldve put him at under. Just my opinion. Maybe penoche has something to add

I'm going to repeat myself and say that the feds also believed Salerno was the boss of the Genovese family. I'm just saying.

I don't see why anybody in the Gambino family will give a flying fuck anymore of what Gotti, let alone Gravano, thought of him. Gotti ruined their family and Gravano.. well..

True

Giancarlo what exactly did Sammy and John say about Mannino, can you remember? Thanks in advance.

Mannino probably doesn't care, it just surprised me when i read it how much they liked the guy because they didn't like any of the zips. But fucking Mannino they really seemed to like for some reason.

I'm not knocking Cali, I just know besides his brothers that Mannino's has been Gambino's guy and what i said was that "IF" Gambino was really the boss that if he had to choose between the 2 i would bet he would pick Mannino and i still stand by that. But as far as everyone else in the family goes they might very well pick Cali. Mannino did 15 years in the can with John and Joe, he's their guy, always has been.