Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: Ciccio67
You actually believe , that these gambling businesses bring in
20 mill 30 mill a year or a week or whatever they claim ,
Ok you the pro at reading online , so ill give. You home work
Touchdownbets.com it involves Pete inzerillo and joe lanni, let me no how much
They were making a "year ". And also ivy instead of telling me about people you read online. - let me no about , steve arena in the west side ,
Pat Marsala , Dominic cefalu, - I'm not knocking the mob it's just you named alot of old cases besides Alphonse's case. As of 2013 that shit is all dead .
The pernas got followed to a ceremony when on or 2 of the perna kids got made .
It's all over you guys don't understand . You can't even smoke on a construction job anymore you think they have the mob involved, yea maybe shaking down roach coach trucks for 200 a week.


Give me a break. You didn't have an answer for the very examples you asked for (maybe you were hoping I didn't have them) so you simply ignore them and go right back to repeating yourself. Why don't you actually look these cases up? They're hardly "old." Most were in the last few years and anything over the past decade is hardly old news. "As of 2013 that shit is all dead?" What does that even mean? Did the mob decide to pack it in this past new year? It seems, in an attempt to justify your claims, you only want to consider cases in the last year or so, which hardly gives a good view of the overall picture.

I'm not sure what $20-30 million a week operation you're referring to (nobody claimed such a thing) but, as has been explained before, the figures usually cited in mob gambling cases represent the amount of money wagered during an investigation. Or, from that amount, a total estimated over a year. Not the net profit the mob takes in after pay outs, expenses, etc.

And, yes, the mob is still very much involved in construction. More so than any other legitimate sector. I could give you a list of examples as long as your leg but you'd just ignore them.

Originally Posted By: cheech
i have to agree with much of what ciccio is saying


Agree with what exactly? He's been talking out of his ass.

Originally Posted By: Ciccio67
There hasent bin anyone that has flipped that we no of, that is.

Yea I remember the recording of nicky skins kicking up500 to an old timer capo for some bullshit cigarette set up that the Feds did what tribute 500 bucks on a Load of cigs. I'm not knocking your comment I respect it we are here all to share opinions but we hve to face fact the mob in ny isn't what it once was not even close.


Well that's hardly news. But you can't cherrypick a case in order to make your point. You have to look at all the cases in order to get a good view of things. And you don't want to do that.




I agreed that the mob isnt what it used to be...besides very few who make a great living in the construction or union rackets...the rest are making a living of off booking and shy

mob 2013 is a shell of itself


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