for the record. when I think Winter Hill Gang, I think Somerville

Yeah I posted it cuz they Bolth get there cut on Salem street in medford and so do I....lilo is a medium height but jacked and billy is all tatooed up and short hair...lilo was assaulted by billy for shaking down a drug dealer that was under the protection of billy so billy beat lilo up...

i think i know what babershop your talking about.... its definetley been years since ive seen angelesco cause he never had tattoos before, he used to be a skinny crackhead... but now people say after his first major bid hes bulking up.... hes one of those guys whos just real violent, wouldnt call him a top earner or SMART for that matter. LIKE IVE POSTED BEFORE THERES ALOT OF THINGS ABOUT HIM PEOPLE DONT KNOW, LIKE HIM BEING A JUNKIE, HIM BEING IRISH, HIS MOTHER BEING A FEDERAL PAROLE OFFICER, ANGELESCO BIENG HIS MOTHERS LAST NAME HIS REAL FATHERS NAME IS RUSSELL, HIS WIFE THE ONE WHO WAS KIDNAPPED HAS A BOYFRIENDS ON THE SIDE INCLUDING A BLACK COKE DEALER FROM LYNN. AND GIANGRANDE IS A HERION ATTICT AND HIS LAST ARREST WAS FOR SHOPLIFTING... WHAT GANGSTER SHOPLIFTS??/

Thank you southend. Lic, buddy u got a serious hard on for Billy huh. You keep repeating the same shit about him in capital letters. Legit pal you have said the same exact info about him on all the new england, boston threads. You say you haven't seen him in years, yet you know every little detail about Billy. Even telling us where he lives for crist sake. Billy was already getting bulked up before he went away in 07. I never seen anybody post so much dirt on someone on any of these threads not just the Boston ones. Im sure I could let himknow you wanna talk to him the way your trashing him on here.

i think lic is junkie who billy beat up and get all his info from another junkie who runs the junk part of things from billy since lic is probably barred from the inner circle and out the loop of things and anyone who is connected knows billy ain't the first or last to have a mom or family member work for the law so lic just if u didnt not no big deal so keep throwing names out there dont mean shit and sure dont impress me not a bit

FYI JoeRusso, lic also posted on a another thread that you're the son of the guy who clipped Barboza.

All of you guys provide quality posts with interesting info. There's no need for the pissing contests that crop up. Some people on here post like they're bipolar with the lic-ster leading the way. There's no call accusing people of being gay or a junky over and over again. Downright annoying.

Climbing down off the soapbox.

Your exactly right, Russo and Mike, but I just got fed up with Lic. Calling me a joke and trying to tell me shit that I already know. I just started posting on here and this guy just wouldn't stop the shit talking. Theres no.need to post shit like he does, we all come on here to read and discuss things that are.common knowledge. And eveyone can post there thoughts or other info, Im.sorry but.this guy is just too much. With the junkie this and junkie that and all the garbage Lic posts. There's no need for it. He just seems like a rat, who thinks he knows every single thing going on in the Boston underworld.

first off i respect anyone wno posts local knowledge... and 2 things factor in to my sloppy posts the fact that iam using an ancient slow computer and the fact that billy and gene killed some people i was frinds/aquantences with soetihng u smucks wouldnt understand.. and iam lettign you know the facts on him cause hes made his criminal life off of lies.. and joerusso everything i post about anyone or anything is first hand knwledge and fact... nini angelesco is/was a federal parole officer and his irish and has always had a a drrrug problem soo hasnt gene.. i know all this shit about them because i grew up with these criminals not gangsters.. i would never call them gangsters... billy smokes crack and gene shoplifts to support dope habbit. anything i post about them is fact.... and if you go back to playing whos more connected youll lose. anytihng i post is from guys i grew up with all over the state or through family members.... shit i post about southie, eastie, north end, charlestown, revere, cambridge, everett,medford, malden, somerville is all first hand knowledge cause ive lived in these nieghborhoods and interacted with these guys.... and dFYI ville niel is a family friend he has diabetes now but i still respect that crazy fuck... and if your were really from somerville youd know that fat al sapochetti was crying in his cell when they did the sweep on the willow jazz club, he ended up ratting out niel andthe rest of them... gus sidote was a crazy fuck and johnson was a big earner. joe russo is just looking for a fight cause i got more knowledge than him, i am someon who was a part of the mix old or not, he is just someones son and nephew... and yes russo and the eastie biys were nut bags back in the dya but now there ancient... theres bufalino and prochillo though. AGIAN I APPRECIATE ALL LOCAL KNOWLEDGE AN POSTS. theres no piont in pissing and moaning at each other over the internet... billy and gene have a four leaf clover stuck up there ass, with the luck theyve had all these years but theyve killed alot of peoples fmaily members, bad guys or not, and it will catch up too them no matter how much undeserved respect billy gets from you youn punks.... i know all this shit about them cause i know eho they really are! and billy gets his hotheadness from his biological father billy russell, a bar brawler from cambridge.... yourfamily may know him ville. billy and gene' time will come... no matter how may old timers and politicians.cops there connected too.

kevin mucka mccormick 1999

bobby rogers santasky 2000

peter devito 2001

patrick patsy squillante 2004

murder at candelinos in somerville??? ville you got any inside info on that? ive heard it but no one has ever told me the pecifics... tryed looking itup theres nothing on it?


theyve killed alot of people and there luck will run out!

there's also acouple of things that happened in the mid 90's, that theyve been linked too but thats a whole different story... will give it some thought if iam guna post about those 2 incidents.

rogers and squillante were killed cause it was rumored they were going t testify in the mucka mccormick murder.


and for the recored ive never done drugs in my life, these are subjects that hit close too home... ive lived all over the state and have interacted with these guys at one pion oranother some more than others. and iam no rat haha were all on a message board, you call me a rat yor callign yourself a rat... ive kept some deep dark secrets my entire life... dont even come at me like that boyo

aisde from that iam glad too see theres so many boston/mass/new england guys on here.

and to be honest with you young smucks.. the resonon why some of them still have thier freedom cause they never stayed in one place or with one group too long... thats he way to play it... thats a nugget of gold for ya.

and joerusso your such smuck... nothing you post impresse's me one bit cause anything you post happened 30 years ago and i could read in a book.. or ask an aging family member.

Man c'mon lets keep this thread going without the insults! This shit gets kinda old seeing y'all fuss back and forth, but yet y'all seem to have a ton of knowledge. Keep the facts flowing instead of the insults before this gets locked down or y'all get banned. I enjoy the posts.

joerusso check your pm's by the way. Going to holler at you.

I'm not a grammar cop but you have to be dyslexic to read the posts in this thread

I appreciate that post Lic, I know Fat Als a fucking rat fuck and claimed to be taking over the Boston Mob scene, but dimed that whole crew out and.couldn't even show his face in Somerville. His brother John, the degenerate gambler use to own Supreme Kitchen right up the street from me, but had to sell it cause he owes fucking everyone. The prick even asked through a friend to borrow money from me. I've lived in Somerville my whole life, but my family is from Ctown, Cambridge and some live in Medford. You must know my family if u grew up with billy. I just got pissed when u called me a joke cause im.definitly.not a joke. Everything I post is legit. I called u a rat cause of all the little tid bits u were throwing out about billy. Im no rat, my generation is obviously a little younger then yours. Some of my best friends are dead and we were all Somerville boys with fathers and uncles invovled in all this shit. I can say this stuff cause I know it and been through it. Im no bollshiter, and I respect everything u say, but when name calling starts u know how us Bostonians get, we r all hot heads, which Im sure people can tell by reading these threads.

Someone was asking about the murder in Candelino's in 2002. This is all I could find. Ironically, I posted this exact same thing two years ago today.

Yea Eldridge and his girlfriend were sitting at the bar in there and someone walked in wearing a suit and tie and walked right up to him and shot him in the face. His girl chased the guy outside and the person shot her in the back. The bar was pretty full, but no one saw anything.

its all good, ville, southend and mike have had some good posts. joe russo is just on here to piss and moan... and thanks on the eldridge info... asked a few guys and they diddnt seem to know too much on it... billy and gene love killing them medford boys.... it reeks of bily this hit wearing a suite and tie a packed place with no witness's...( same thing with the devito hit at the squire) theres some other boston guys on here too like meffaboston vinnygorgeous and little frankie. always liek the feedback and posts...

i would like to put billy and gene in a room with the family and friends of the following people and see what would happen.

gary macarelli- killed 1995
kevin mucka mccormick
bobby rogers santasky
peter devito
mark eldridge
marie pladziewicz
patrick ;patsy' squillante

There luck will run out someday.... the one thing ive always asked other guys is how the hierarchy put up with them... everyone says the old timers dont want to be aorund him but yet hes still apart of thier orginazation. some people from medford call him irish billy, because they knwo who he really is.

i never a person who just hates another but dont have the balls to do shit about as much u do ...i can be a smuck and son/nephew of old gangsters but if i had a problem like u do and know as much people as u claim i sure would do something about it. im not the relative of the late great joe russo and i know most of yous know that and i can tell by your way of talk your a fuckin irish mick but no more back n forth with u because the knowledge u have is bunch of worthless info about bunch of dickheads that wants to be reckon with but dont have that type respect ...i think ur a junkie or degenerate who owes got beat up n trying to degrade the man on a forum where possiblebly an agent just observing. whatever i say i try to be informative and discreet as possible bcus whatever i say dont need to b used to help the law or have every personal business out in public but u act like ur in the red n only way out is getting this guy pinched without ur name in the 302's ....say whatever u have to say but im done

Anybody got a guess who took over as capo of east b after rossetti and his guys went down. Rossetti took the 12yr in pc at the shirley max he didnt give up the bodies or there be alot of murder trials. The crew was always big.

does boston still answer to new York?

What does that nonsense even mean?

Rossetti is in the Fed block in Norfolk

What do you guys think about Jerry angulios son Gennaro and James Mirando (Tootie)....do you think they kick up or are they 100 percent legit. I know g/j is a very large and successful tow company.

He may kick up, but I doubt it. I think his old man has enough respect out there considering he did his 20+ years without uttering a word.

If I remember correctly Limone and his father were really tight, I'm sure he could call in a favor if someone tried to shake him down.

I doubt anyone would shake him down.... He is good friends with bunch of motorcycle guys if you know what I mean...

From what I've heard he's pretty nice guy, very unassuming.

Ville - You ever heard of a guy named Phil Johnson? I hear he owns like a used carlot or something like that and if I remember right its in Somerville. More to him than that obviously, but just wondering for now if you know of him?

Was it Phil Myers? I think he is part owner of Johns Auto in Somerville. Was big in the teamsters Local 25. Him and his brother worked for john murray. Phil ended up ratting.

Yes. That's exactly him, I had the last name sort of mixed up with the car lots name. Anthony said if he were to get out of prison today, he'd just go see Phil Myers at John's Auto and tell him give me a car "and I'd be leavin with a new car". But I've heard a lotta shit about Phil Myers from Charlestown/Somerville guys. Too long ago for me to shoot off facts on a thread with any credibility however...But if anybody knows about him there are some facts i'd like to bounce off

I knew you meant Phil, him and his brother Paul work at Johns Auto, on one of the other New England threads I mentioned Johns Auto. Joey Mongiello works down there too. What facts did you want to know about about him. Im sure I can answer whatever questions you have. They worked with John Murray, not for him. Yes Phil did rat, but, no one would say that to his face and it's not like hes hiding out or anything. Hes probably the craziest motherfucker I know. When I said to Lic, there's alot of townies on his list he was missing, I meant this whole crew, but I didnt mention names cause these are guys I know all too well. Phil's a sicko, Lic was talking about townies joining the AB in jail, Phil was one of them. He killed a black guy in jail by sticking a metal pipe through his head. He's about 60yrs old now and he works out by fighting UFC style and he kicks the shit out of guys 20 30 years younger then him.

Phil is def out in the open and not shy. He sold my buddy a car when we were getting out of high school. My buddy thought he walked on water. Phil would send us out to do things for the shop and let us take the cars out and fart around, was always very friendly to me. Ville, is Murray still around? He got pinched for that scam they were running with the UPS drivers stealing expensive computer shit. He was doing it with a guy from up my way in Lowell, Danny Gilday. Gilday ended up turning and becoming a witness.He is a clown, im shocked Murray even associated with him.