The 80s was fucked up

Gambinos-Gotti killing Paul,But paul have lots of legal problems beforehand
Bonnano-donnie brasco incident fucked them up pretty good
Luchese-Vic and gas
Colombo-Just lost the legendary Carmine persico for life

An argument can also be made from the other spectrum. It was either kill Castellano or Gotti was going to be killed. He struck first and thus from Gotti's perspective it was a good decision.

gotti had some of the worst reasons to whack guys. he killed the out ct guy debrizzi for complining about going weekly to the ravenite and the jelly belly guy got killed cause he was afraid to come in gotti said it himself he didn't steal nothing. gotti was manipulated by a few guys.the d.b. was just as bad as anything amuso did.

this?

Submitted by Tony (Monte), Mar 6, 2007 17:40

Jerry Capeci should do an article on how Liborio "Barney" Bellomo got indicted for basically saying from a prison cell how he wouldn't mind if the Wiseguys on the outside put a hit on Ralphie Coppola. Is that justice? Was that even giving an OK on the hit ? Those issues will be settled in a courtroom, but there is a higher justice being served with "Barney's" indictment. Barney was the one who bought Ralph into the Mob. Ralph, an extraordinary kid from the Bronx, a natural leader who could of been successful in any of life's endeavors. Barney selected Ralph, Ralph did not pick Barney. So maybe there is justice being served with this indictment. Maybe someone's life path was changed at a critical moment by someone who had no business associating with anyone. Did Barney kill Ralph ? Not physically, but there are other layers of existence that we as Human beings have influence upon. Most are judged in the next life, but sometimes the injustice is so great that judgement and punishment are meeted out here on this plane of existence. As imperfect as we are. Ralph's nickname was "Sparrow" when he was a young Ballplayer. Mockingbirds shouln't be the only protected species . The Human spirit takes many forms. I will always remember Ralph the way he was, he will not be so easy to forget

and this from the same guy

Submitted by Tony (Monte), Mar 6, 2007 16:09

I knew Ralph back in the 70s when he was a fresh faced kid playing Pop Warner football with the Eastchester Ramblers. His nickname was "Sparrow" because he was painfully slender and good looking. We also hooked up in the mid 80s when I got home from the service and he was still the nicest most loyal friend I had ever known. To keep referring to him as a Capo in the mob and some kind of degenerate WiseGuy is a serious misrepresentation. He was a Good Guy who had a loving family with roots in the community. That said, he probably did get mixed up with the wrong crowd but I guarantee that he was not a violent person and his memory deserves more respect than what is being said in these columns.

Respectfully Yours

Monte

buddy luongo

I think this is probably the best answer considering what Amuso and Casso would turn out like.

Greg Scarpa Jr. is actually in Iowa State Prison located in Ft Madison, Iowa. I found this out from a guy who grew up with him and we somehow got involved in conversation outside an AA meeting and as we talked and he realized I knew most of the names he was talking about, he asked if I wanted to go get something to eat. So we went to an Ihop and he showed me letters from Greg that were coming from the Iowa State Penitentiary. The connection with Iowa and me and thhs guy, whose name is Sonny (dont know or remember his last name) is the fact that I was born and raised in Iowa and I thought " What in the world would Greg be doing in an Iowa prison. We never have anything cool happen in Iowa or anything mob related, so when he, Sonny, told me this, that is what piqued my interest. He, Sonny, was, is working on some television program about Greg and his history. But yeah, he showed me letters and he also had a manilla envelope full of fbi files on Greg Jr. He also had a special cell phone that Greg had given him or somehow gotten it to him that was only used for calls between him and Greg and when he showed me the phone it had a 319 area code which is my old area code in Iowa. It made sense and with everything he had and said, you just knew this guy wasn't bullshitting. It was cool talking with him and we kept in contact for a little while but he was more about AA and im not, so we don't keep contact anymore but it was a very interesting night. I asked what came to mind within reason and I think he knew it was safe talking to me by the way I kinda knew what was off limits and what I could ask. Figured id throw that in there since I saw that someone still thought he was in ADX Florence.

Also, this all occured in Florida and Sonny was obviously very close with Greg Jr. by all the letters he had sent Sonny, and it was Greg Scarpa Jr on it as return address from the Iowa State Penitentiary, Ft Madison Iowa. And the phone that was used only for calls between Sonny and Greg in prison just cemented the fact that he was not bullshitting in any way whatsoever.

The Salvie Testa hit was done not only for him calling off the wedding. Have you read the article the WSJ did on him? My god, if I was Salvie I would've killed the journalist who wrote the article. Yeah, it makes him look like a real top guy but if you read the article as if you were a boss of the family, I can see why Scarfo had him killed. It basically says everything but "This guy is the REAL boss of Philly."

Off the top of my head and in no particular order

Anthony "Buddy" Luongo

Arnold Schuster

Paul Castellano

Salvie Testa

William "Action" Jackson

Angelo Bruno

The Genovese sure did fuck the Philadelphia crime family bigtime!

most of these been covered already

fat pete chiodo
frank costello (political contacts lost)
action jackson (makes me ill to think about it how sad)
wild bill cutolo
sal testa
db
milto
whack jersey
fred weiss
dr navarra (led to riina eventually)
al pilloto
and many more!!!

accardo/aiuppa/cerone's inability to control the southside during the 70s/80s

they should have stepped in and prevented the murders

Paul Castellano
Angelo Bruno
Salvie Testa

There are many more when you have loose cannons like Nicky Scarfo, Roy DeMeo, John Gotti, Tommy Pitaro and Charlie Carniglia running around.

Charles carneglia.who was tge probation officer he killed over an argument.pretty dumb reason