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Re: Presidential Debates
#73559
09/30/04 02:54 PM
09/30/04 02:54 PM
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Double-J
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Tonight is Return of the Jedi movie night, so I'll have to flick between the debate or something. I've already decided who I'm voting for, which is no surprise, so the debate won't change me. Hopefully, this will continue to help Bush, as he will refute Kerry's attacks on the War on Iraq and Bush will go after Kerry's senate record and stance on some issues. Will be awful interesting, though not likely Nixon-Kennedy. 
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Re: Presidential Debates
#73561
09/30/04 03:23 PM
09/30/04 03:23 PM
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AppleOnYa
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Originally posted by Double-J: ...Hopefully, this will continue to help Bush, as he will refute Kerry's attacks on the War on Iraq and Bush will go after Kerry's senate record and stance on some issues... Hi, Double-J...obviously my mind is made up, too. But I'll still watch to see each candidate does as this is supposedly what will help make up the minds of many undecided voters. Apparently, my favorite (unintentionally) comic liberal, Paul Krugman ... has his own ideas about how the debate will turn out. And fortunately for all the rest of us, Don Luskin has the goods on Krugman. http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_luskin/nrof_luskin.asp Anyone think Kerry will put some makeup on his newly orange skintone? Maybe he's hoping his Fairy Godmother (whoever that is) can turn him from a pumpkin into a real candidate. Apple
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Re: Presidential Debates
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09/30/04 04:04 PM
09/30/04 04:04 PM
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fathersson
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Originally posted by Don Marco: I'm not going to watch - the original season of the Sopranos (Episode 4) is on at 9:00.
Not to change the subject, But I was watching that late last night. Good show last night I mite add. But the point I want to bring up to you is: LOOK how skinny those folks were back then. Just five short years ago and look at them now. After being on a hit show those people have packed on some pounds. and I mean every one of them. Tonys head has more hair  and the kids look like little children. Well, back to the debates for tonight. Good thing we have cable, DVDs and VCRs and other things to watch. I have seen enough bullshit in the last few months. I will check in during the commercials if there are any in what I am watching. Otherwise roll up your pant legs. The shit will flow tonight! Then after that you have to listen to all the blow hard TV people try and tell you what you just heard. So you get two cases of bullshit on one night. You know who would really be great to go over the debates and give you the highlights: Penn and Teller  Now that I would turn in for!
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Re: Presidential Debates
#73564
09/30/04 04:18 PM
09/30/04 04:18 PM
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goombah
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I can't wait for the debates. I wish there was an accurate way to gage how many truly undecided voters are really out there. I would love to see how influenced an undecided voter is by these debates. Here are some quotes from Rolling Stone magazine's current issue from artists touring in support of John Kerry: I think that Fox News and the Republican right have intimidated the press into an incredible self-consciousness about appearing objective and backed them into a corner of sorts where they have ceded some of their responsibility and righteous power.
Whether you like the Michael Moore film or not, a big part of its value was that it showed how sanitized the war that we received on television at night is. The fact that the administration refused to allow photographs of the flag-draped coffins of returning dead, that the president hasn't shown up at a single military funeral for the young people who gave their lives for his policies, is disgraceful. - Bruce Springsteen When Bush ran the first time, I realized something: I want my president to be smarter than I am. I don't ask much, but I want him to be smarter than me. - Mike Mills, R.E.M. The Republicans refuse to talk about issues - they just try and make people who are Christians believe that Bush is the only choice. - Art Alexakis - Everclear Do I fault Bush for skipping out during Vietnam and using his wealth to get him out of the war? Not at all. I would do the same thing to protect my child. Is it cowardice? Probably, but I'm a big coward myself.
What sickens me is how Bush is trying to base his entire election on September 11th, as if he owns that day. I hope people don't fall for that. - Natalie Mains, Dixie Chicks
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Re: Presidential Debates
#73565
09/30/04 04:26 PM
09/30/04 04:26 PM
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AppleOnYa
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Originally posted by goombah: ... Here are some quotes from Rolling Stone magazine's current issue from artists touring in support of John Kerry:... [/QUOTE] Amazing. :rolleyes: Just goes to show you don't need brains to be able to carry a tune. Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
- THOMAS JEFFERSON
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Re: Presidential Debates
#73566
09/30/04 04:30 PM
09/30/04 04:30 PM
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J Geoff
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Here's one of my favorite quotes: "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real." --John Kerry (1/23/03) :rolleyes: 
I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey!  lol Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin My DVDs | Facebook | Godfather Filming Locations
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Re: Presidential Debates
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09/30/04 04:58 PM
09/30/04 04:58 PM
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Don Marco
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Originally posted by J Geoff: Here's one of my favorite quotes:
[quote]"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real." --John Kerry (1/23/03) :rolleyes:  [/quote]I think he, like the rest of us, believed that the administration was telling us the truth. Colin Powell got up and told us about the WMD. There were none - so he was duped like the rest of us.
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Re: Presidential Debates
#73569
09/30/04 05:09 PM
09/30/04 05:09 PM
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fathersson
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Originally posted by AppleOnYa: [quote]Originally posted by goombah: [b] ... Here are some quotes from Rolling Stone magazine's current issue from artists touring in support of John Kerry:... [/quote]Amazing. :rolleyes: Just goes to show you don't need brains to be able to carry a tune. Apple [/b][/QUOTE] Now, Now, come on Apple,  What it really shows is that the people in the music world are just as misinformed as some of the other people who are touring this country and giving speaches. Could be that drugs cloud their thoughts also and playing with all those young girls softens their minds. 
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Re: Presidential Debates
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09/30/04 05:10 PM
09/30/04 05:10 PM
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AppleOnYa
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Originally posted by Don Marco: [QUOTE]...I think he, like the rest of us, believed that the administration was telling us the truth. Colin Powell got up and told us about the WMD. There were none - so he was duped like the rest of us. Won't fly, Don Marco. Kerry saw the SAME Intelligence Reports that were made available to the President, and it was on that info that he based the statement above, AND his vote in favor of the war. Now tonight (as in the past several months)...he will try & spin that he simply voted for 'authorization' for the President to go to war as a 'last resort'. Gosh, I can't wait...I'll probably be able to recite it along with him!! Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
- THOMAS JEFFERSON
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Re: Presidential Debates
#73571
09/30/04 05:12 PM
09/30/04 05:12 PM
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DonMichaelCorleone
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Originally posted by AppleOnYa: [quote]Originally posted by Don Marco: [b] [QUOTE]...I think he, like the rest of us, believed that the administration was telling us the truth. Colin Powell got up and told us about the WMD. There were none - so he was duped like the rest of us. Won't fly, Don Marco. Kerry saw the SAME Intelligence Reports that were made available to the President, and it was on that info that he based the statement above, AND his vote in favor of the war. Now tonight (as in the past several months)...he will try & spin that he simply voted for 'authorization' for the President to go to war as a 'last resort'. Gosh, I can't wait...I'll probably be able to recite it along with him!! Apple [/b][/quote]we think alike apple lol
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Re: Presidential Debates
#73572
09/30/04 05:15 PM
09/30/04 05:15 PM
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AppleOnYa
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Originally posted by fathersson: [QUOTE]...and playing with all those young girls softens their minds. Would that also apply to Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks?? I thought it was a hoot a few years back when Don Imus referred to her as 'the little fat girl'. He did admit though (as do I) that she sure can sing!! Apple
A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
- THOMAS JEFFERSON
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Re: Presidential Debates
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09/30/04 08:10 PM
09/30/04 08:10 PM
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Sicilian Babe
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I have to disagree with you there, Don Sonny. If you remember, there were hundreds, if not thousands, of funerals and memorial services in the days after September 11th. Rudy Giuliani, who was dealing with the attacks on the city, with the fact that his fire dept. was decimated, that his command center was destroyed, that he was unable to enter City Hall, that he had to build an information center for the families, that he had to take charge of a recovery effort that was unimaginable, etc. AND the anthrax threats, made sure that either he, or someone from his administration, attended every one of them. He often went to six or more per day. AND he managed to squeeze in a flight to Arizona to watch the Yankees in the World Series, flew back to start the NYC Marathon, and then flew back to Arizona for Game 7. He never complained about being too tired or too busy. He explained that his father had taught him that weddings were fun, but funerals were mandatory. He felt that showing up to offer comfort was the LEAST he could offer the families, and I find it hard to believe that Bush didn't have time to attend even one.
I admit that I didn't vote for Bush in the first election, but I haven't made up my mind which way to go on this one. I am looking forward to the debates to sway me one way or the other.
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Re: Presidential Debates
#73580
09/30/04 08:37 PM
09/30/04 08:37 PM
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Posts: 15,058 The Slippery Slope
plawrence
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Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone: If I tell you moby dick is about a tiger but you read the book then you would say no its about a shark. I wouldn't :rolleyes:
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Re: Presidential Debates
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09/30/04 10:56 PM
09/30/04 10:56 PM
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raggingbull2003
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I feel that Kerry was very articulate during the debates and therefore, he was able to get away with his distortions of the truth. I also feel that Bush was almost too timid in the debate. He had many oppurtunities to put Kerry in question rather than just defend himself, and he failed to take the shots. For example, he chose not to go into detail regarding Kerry's voting record. But one thing about the debates really pissed me off, and whether your liberal or conservative, you have to agree with me. Literally all of the questions put Bush in a position where he had to defend himself. There were very few times where Kerry had to defend all the mistakes he has made while in political office and this seemed unfair to me. That said, I thought the debate was dull. Both candidates repeated themselves often and I didnt learn anything more than what I already know. I will watch the next two debates, but this time I will make sure I have a pillow handy. 
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