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Re: Is Vito rizzuto a great gangster or just lucky
[Re: azguy]
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08/28/13 05:42 PM
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Boy, Sal had a lot of balls thinking he was going to show up North of the border and end up running things.... Yep. I'm sure he thought Vito was still loyal to the Bonanno's and would follow orders. Before he knew it he was running out of his own window and jumping into a frozen river. I too believe it was Vito that whacked Fernandez. Then even if Desjardins gets through this murder trial he still has the fact Vito is licking his chops hoping Desjardins beats the case just so he can punish him for what he done while Vito was in prison. Bye bye Raynald.
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Re: Is Vito rizzuto a great gangster or just lucky
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11/29/13 12:25 AM
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I think Vito has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt,that he's a serious force to be reckoned with.
"A mook---what's a mook ?" Johnny Boy Civello
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Re: Is Vito rizzuto a great gangster or just lucky
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11/29/13 11:03 AM
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yeah i agree, they dont make mobsters like this guy anymore it seems. lately when a boss hits the matresses it turns into a god damn mess (Colombo civil war) but this guy comes back and just starts mopping up wiseguys like kids play. He is the undisputed boss of Canada right now. Capo di tutti capi del Canada
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Re: Is Vito rizzuto a great gangster or just lucky
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11/29/13 06:56 PM
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That's why I don't like mobsters, even though am interested in them: if I were Vito, after my family was slaughtered, I would have been pretty much disgusted with the criminal life that brought me tragedy and would just retire after taking revenge. Revenge is understandable, but now Di Maulo and Montagna are dead and Desjardins is in jail, but Vito still goes on and on again. He really seems not to have got how filthy a professional criminal's life is. I was initially even sorry for him when all his friends and relatives were whacked while he couldn't do anything, being in prison. Now I just hope somebody whacks him as well.
Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:
1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."
2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Re: Is Vito rizzuto a great gangster or just lucky
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11/30/13 04:10 PM
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That is a highly subjective statement. All criminals potentially warrant a death sentence, because it's part of their business. It's the same as army soldiers, who are prepared to die in battle. If you don't want to risk your life in battle you do not become a soldier, plain and simple.
Yes, but still, they can have relatives who aren't criminals and are hurt by the loss of their family members. I don't really blame Vito Rizzuto for whacking Di Maulo since he initiated the whole massacre. But what about others? Just to make an example, what was the point of whacking Gaetan Gosselin? He was just an underling of Desjardins'. Even Desjardins himself can't take important decisions himself, not being Italian, so what exactly one of his underlings was guilty of in relation to the Rizzuto family massacre? Just to prove his point to Desjardins who is in prison? Don't know how Vito reasons, but I always thought "revenge" is directed at those who are 100% responsible for offenses towards you, killing people around them just to prove your point is crazy, even though I understand perfectly that crime bosses have always done that. You are right on the other hand, maybe there is no point to care about this mess, but still I sometimes try to look at it from a point of view different from usual, just out of curiosity.
Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:
1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."
2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Re: Is Vito rizzuto a great gangster or just lucky
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12/01/13 03:15 AM
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If you think Gosselin was a saint you got another thing coming.
I don't say he was a saint, it was just an example that I don't think everyone Vito had killed deserved to die in my opinion. It's not like they are good people, it's Vito who is a scumbag.
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Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:
1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."
2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Re: Is Vito rizzuto a great gangster or just lucky
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12/01/13 01:47 PM
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I don't really blame Vito Rizzuto for whacking Di Maulo since he initiated the whole massacre. But what about others? Just to make an example, what was the point of whacking Gaetan Gosselin? He was just an underling of Desjardins'. Even Desjardins himself can't take important decisions himself, not being Italian, so what exactly one of his underlings was guilty of in relation to the Rizzuto family massacre? Just to prove his point to Desjardins who is in prison? Don't know how Vito reasons, but I always thought "revenge" is directed at those who are 100% responsible for offenses towards you, killing people around them just to prove your point is crazy, even though I understand perfectly that crime bosses have always done that. You speak as if you know all the details while you, just like the rest of us, only know 10%. You don't know Gosselin's history nor do you know Rizzuto's motives. In fact, we do not even know if Rizzuto was behind it in the first place.
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Re: Is Vito rizzuto a great gangster or just lucky
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12/01/13 02:23 PM
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You speak as if you know all the details while you, just like the rest of us, only know 10%. You don't know Gosselin's history nor do you know Rizzuto's motives. In fact, we do not even know if Rizzuto was behind it in the first place.
That's right, but this doesn't change the fact that our points of view are slightly different: you said you have no problems when criminals kill other criminals. I personally don't care about the criminal victims, but if they are killed in a gang war by people who are no better the them, I still think these crimes should be punished, because in my opinion the perpetrators simply don't care much whether their victims are "in the game" or not. If it's necessary for business, they would have no problems of killing innocents in my opinion. In Italy we have seen it countless times, why would Canada be different? On the other hand, if for example a mafioso was killed by some desperate ruined businessman whose family was killed by the mafia, now that's one murder I would have absolutely no problems with. I wouldn't even testify in court against this perpetrator. Anyway, I respect you point of view, it's not like I am pretending to know all the story, but making assumptions is no crime.
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Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:
1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."
2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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