"borderline illiterate"

if you cant understand my posts then you dont know how to fucking read. The sad part is I think you actually believe all the bullshit you post on here. bring up chicago/elmwoodparker all you want, the fact is your a joke and everyone knows it.

Brah don't be mad that Solly D is making major moves at the governmental level, while you're stuck swinging from gangster testicles on some internet forum.....

Solly D controls the Iranian heroin trade from a pizza parlor in Island Lake, IL. Just facts brahh.

damn you just wanna suck on Solly D's dick huh

Bro, the bottom line is: I think we can all agree that if Shorty Aldo & Bobby Dominic wanted it, they would shut down O'Hare airport.

Amiright? All agreed?

so you just came in the thread mad like a little kid?

the syndicate still has connections........GET OVER IT PIMP

Cut out the childish shit here.

He's being sarcastic how did you not figure that out

Yes nicky, i know he was being sarcastic.

"Do you & cookcounty smoke crack together?" = implying that all African Americans smoke crack cocaine. Racism.

Huron taking everything i say as being racist=Being a bitch

Chart of CURRENT Mob influence at ohare
Ivy is this also a coincidence???? V

You know what they say

Where there's smoke there's fire

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/07/1168107/-Is-the-Mob-cleaning-up-at-Chicago-s-O-Hare-Airport



Willie potatoes jr is involved as well

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/16833459-418/mob-ties-mount-on-ohare-cleaning-contractor.html


In 2012 teamster union aka coli and glimco force illinois dept of transportation to rehire Chicago mobster

http://www.thechicagosyndicate.com/2012/01/teamsters-get-former-mob-bookie-hired.html?m=1

Quoting the above article

Chicago senator aks "with unemployment in the state at 10%
How does someone with this questionable background get hired as a supervisor with the state"

Says frank Calabrese jr "that's called clout"


In 2004 teamster local 330 member John pavlivk was speaking out against the corrupt mob connected leadership of local 330 of the IBT(current mob associate Dominic Romanazzi is the president of the local)

He received a letter in the mail with a copy of a flyer he had been handing out
Written on the flyer was "you are dead"
Along with the letter in the envelope was 45-caliber bullet

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-11-07/business/0411070237_1_investigators-report-local-mob





Quotes from the article
"in 2001 Sen James Deleo ask, "what does that mean mob associated, in 2001 is there really a mob in Chicago"
Side note-James Deleos 2 best friends are Obama and John Difronzo

Edwin Steir wrote in 2004
"Most of our recent investigations have concentrated in one metropolitan area,
Where organized crime remains a serious Problem in business and politics"

"that metropolitan area is Chicago and around here the mob still quietly wields tremendous power"


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-...-union-official

I was aware of literally everything you posted above. Get back to me when you finally catch up to the present, Louie. If you read these cases in depth, is more smoke than anything. If you want to believe there's fire, go ahead. But it's probably more like smoke from cinders going out. Maybe a big Outfit labor union case is just around the corner that will prove me wrong. But I wouldn't bet on it.

Just answer yes or no
Are you more of an expert than former organized crime prosecutor Edwin Steir who in 2004 personally investigate the matter that we speak about and also the people that we speak about that are currently in power, in the teamsters?

A simple yes or no will suffice

No, I'm not. But you can't just cherrypick what evidence you want to consider, louie. You have to look at ALL the evidence involving Outfit activity in recent years and weigh it all in the balance. You NEVER...EVER...do that. You just pick out what suits you and ignore everything else. It's why I can't take much of what you say seriously.

He just posted tons of links of proof and you still come up with some excuse. Why don't you put up some links saying the opposite?

Did you bother reading the links? They hardly prove what louie is saying/wishing.

Look at the labor racketeering cases - or lack thereof - in Chicago for more than a decade now; especially after several mobbed up union guys were ousted in the late 1990's and early 2000's. Or try actually reading the Stier report all the way through like I did. There's not a lot there, at least anything that resulted in an indictment.

What you get with union racketeering in Chicago, like so many things related to the Outfit, is so much rumor, speculation, conjecture, etc. The O'Hare article is one example. This guy is connected to that guy, who knows that guy, who was this guys kid, so there may be a mob connection here. Or one guy (Peluso) getting his job back? Wow. A bullet left in the mailbox of a guy speaking out against Local 330? And that proves....? Stier's comments? Why did nothing in his report result in a single case brought by the Justice Department?

Like I keep saying, the devil is in the details and you actually have to read more than just the headlines (or the parts louie chooses to post). After the Family Secrets case, Ronald Goldstock said, "What you're seeing in Chicago and elsewhere are mopping up operations." Outfit historian John Binder said "they still have some labor racketeering." I could agree with that. But not with them having pervasive control over the Teamsters locals in Chicago like Steir says (and louie and you wish was true.)

Good stuff Louie. Randazzo is a bad guy.

he's always asking people to post proof and now the proof ain't good enough

Nicky,,
Great challenge.

I'm curious, how is the O'Hare stuff "speculation"? Fosco went to prison for racketeering. I mean I don't care one way or another whether you agree, but sometimes I feel like you argue with these guys for the sake of argument.

Prosecutors office, crime commissions, nonprofit centers, etc., are notorious for exaggerating whatever nefarious activity they happen to be monitoring.

It's not too hard to connect those dots; monitoring those endeavors is their raison d'etre. They are also always making cases for more funding.

I brought the same point up yesterday to someone talking about the Souther Poverty Law Centers estimate of 12,000 KKK members. You can bet they counted every Billy Bob's uncle, cousin, everyone who had ever stopped at one going back to the 1950s.

The O'Hare and union stuff is interesting but all anyone is able to do is point to it as probable clout.

What else is the mob doing with these unions than hooking their relatives up with $50K a year jobs?

In that same vein, prosecutor's offices and the FBI are notorious for exaggerating the effects of their efforts i.e. saying "The mob is finished" or "this is the blow that crippled the mob."

Family Secrets did nothing of the sort, yet look at the language in their press releases. DiFronzo and their top capo's were not even touched. Listen to Giuliani rant about his prosecutions in the 1980s that brought down the five families.

If you purely believe what the FBI says and claims then you probably would think the mob was killed off with the commission trials.

You need common sense to call a spade a spade and frankly, some people don't have it (or have an interest against it because they've been arguing the same position for years and have trouble saying "I was wrong.")

Actually Mitch Mars and Markus Funk went way out of their way to say that it in no way indicated the mob was dead.

I remember Mars saying (paraphrase) "The mob isn't going anywhere and neither are we."

Journalists are probably more guilty of overstating cases than anyone as it helps them sell papers, books etc.

I do remember Bob Cooley arguing his testimony crippled the mob, which it did, and the FBI agent who handled his case saying he deserved a lot more credit for essentially bringing down the mob in Chicago.

Of course he didn't completely bring it down but he did hurt it very, very badly.

"The mob isn't going anywhere and neither are we."
lol Mitch Mars is dead and Funk went into private practice. Many of the Family Secrets defendants are back on the street.

Bob Cooley's testimony was a big case, but again he didn't touch the top boss. Marco D'Amico and Bobby Abbinanti are back out on the streets and back into old habits if you weren't aware...Cooley however is still in hiding. Not sure it hurt the mob "that badly" aside from loosening their grip on the first ward.

How does Cooley "deserve more credit"?

He is widely & universally recognized as the "lawyer that crippled the Outfit's control over the 1st Ward". His book was a best seller.

Mark Wahlberg is adapting the book & playing the Guy in a God damn movie, for crying out loud.

How much more credit does he deserve?

BJ Jahoda is the one who deserves more credit.

By "we" he meant the prosecutor's office.

And, to be frank, if you're keeping score, while he was alive Mitch Mars kicked the Outfit's little ass all over the place. He put Calabrese, Lombardo, Marcello, Infelise, Tocco, Delaurentis and Aleman all behind bars.

I'm not sure you could minimize blowing up the First Ward; that was essentially the center of their power.

Yeah, the Family Secrets defendents who pleaded guilty! Not a single one who went to trial...LOL indeed!

Doyle is the only one who is likely to ever see the light of day again.

It was just an FBI agent saying that the trial didn't get as much publicity as it deserved.

Nah, Cooley's wire tapping of the first Ward destroyed the outfit's dominance within city limits. After that, the majority of operations were relocated for good to the suburbs.