HAHA if hes from medfiddd and has any dealings in this world fmaily or personal...t here is no way you wouldnt know barry,angelesco, giangrande and cahill... or lonnie hillson or joey mongiello.

i posted this before.. it is true the dinunzios owed dee dee and gerry anguilo major money soo they went to work out in vegas under the chicago family... there boss/contact was spoliotro the charcter portrayed by joe peci in the movie the casino.

Im sorry Medfagg, it is you that are the joke boyo.... FACE IT YOU JIONED THIS SITE BECUASE YOUR NIEGHBORS ARE PETER LIMONE, ANGUILO'S, DIGIACOMO'S
AMONGST DOZENS OF OTHER NORTH END/ EASTIE OLD TIMERS THAT CHOOSE TO RAISE THIER CHILDREN IN YOUR RICH LITTLE CORRUPT JUNKIE CITY... THE ONLY PART OF MEDFAGG, ID CONSIDER ANYTHING LIKE THE REST OF GREATER BOSTON IS SOUTH MEDFORD WERE ANGELESCO BARRY GIANGRANDE MONGIELLO, HILLSON OPERATED IN THIER YOUTHS..... The nieghborhood were meffaboston lives is filled with huge houses, were old time gangsters moved too.... the name of the nieghborhood is medfagg hieghts and the other side if ti is called the MALDENS WEST END.

Fact: Billy was smoking crack out of a dried out chicken bone in J4. Having a guy who'll remain nameless lug big 60bags of canteen over to East Down to pay the Ya'Means for the shit. Taking Klonopins from the medline strait from kid's drooly diseased mouths when they'd cheek em. He was a stone cold drug addict that was my first impression, honestly

hahaa kick rocks dont smoke it.... nah ya know if hes from medfidd hes smoking and shooting all types of shit. and southend weve all heard that shit about billy, but that just seals the deal hilarious brother.... i ownder who was lugging the bags of canteen for him giangrnade.... thats the funny part giangrande got 3-4 years on that bust in 2006-2007, but no one i know can recollect him doing a bid for it?? even wrote some letters when that was going down no one seemed to know where he was doing his time...hmmm

like i said hes from medford a town that you move to to give your kids a better living and it turns to be a fuckin city under dope ... best thing in medford is tufts besides that it can join malden as one big fucking junkie city with all types of rackets and currupt officials and bunch asain and hatians that whole medford malden is a fuckin mess best thing they got is tufts and malden catholic hockey team ......lmaol im a big high school sports guy esp football real big on it love my high school football big time lmaol

The whole state of MA is on opiates

Paqddy Im a lowell boy and i go to sulllys once a week I love that joint!

Lic, he did that bid in Billerica and finished it in Worcester when he got shipped out og NHOC

This was MCI Concord - Giangrande wasn't there otherwise I'm sure they'd have been side by side all the time. The guy luggin the bags of food back n forth was his cellie, not a OC guy but good friend of Mark Rossetti

Medford sucks now. Billy is dangerous. Spucky is the man.

Yeah, the thing is is that spucky is one of the few old timers that truly likes billy and gene.... Not sure how limone feels about angelesco.... Medford is one of th emost junkie corrupt cities ive ever come across in all of MA. I mean angelesco killed macarelli in 1995 just streets over from where peter limone riased/set up his family... he probally didnt like that.

Barry and angelesco terrorized medford/malden in that time period and those are the cities all these north end old timers choose to raise thier children... its probally a double edge sword..

people say limone liked Barry to an extent, but never heard how crazy horse feels about angelesco.

Besides doing his time like a stand up guy after being wrongly convicted, what managerial skills does Limone offer. Prior to going away on that murder rap, he was a card/dice operator. Sure, he was an up and comer, but his days on the street ended quick and when he went away, he wasn't a high ranking member. The world changed while he was in prison. I mean, this guy deposits over $100k in his checking/savings account from illegal gambling money...how could anybody think that was a smart move? He's too old and now too rich to want anything to do with a declining organization/occupation. Personally, I don't believe he would want to take over the top job with the current state that the family is in. I mean, Limone had "no experience" even running or managing his own crew because he was locked up for over 33 years. While he may have been a driver for Angiulo, he still had no street experience overseeing a group of made guys and associates. He got pinched very young...I admire his tenacity for doing all that time, but the truth is he didn't have the opportunity to be in charge of the streets. And his deposits in the bank confirmed his inexperience at hiding/washing money. It was a flat out a stupid mistake, the kind of mistake that gets you right back in the can.

I'm sure somebody is going to chime in to ridicule my opinion...and that's fine. Truth is, he didn't do too good of a job while at the helm for a short period of time.

since we come from two totally different worlds JCB, ill put in simple terms...

any soldier or criminal is going to have no problem running things by a guy who did a bid just like them and kept his mouth shut, instead of taking orders from fat dago who just has a succesful booking office... limone was in walpole in the 70's and 80's the most dangerous prison in MASS until the early 00's when they changed walpole to meduim security, and sent all the MAX inmates to souza barnowski shirley.. limone saw and possibly took part in some serious shit in walpole back in the day... guys like buffalino and angelesco are going to respect a guy like limone or spucky that has commited violence themselves and kept thier mouths shut.

Limone has sons and grandsons.... he made it clear that they were never to be part of the life.

and you say he was just a dice/card runner... you dont know that you just know what books tell you, and RATS tell you..... in fact just like limone likes barry and a few of the younger guys... an old school guy named Illario larry zannino liked peter limone in the 60's... larry zanino was one of the toughest consiglier's in history of the NE family..... guys like joe russo, and larry zannino there legends live on... russo an eastie guy and zannino believe it or not grew up in bostons south end were all the jews and poorest of the poor grew up. Just for ya knowledge JCB.

and yeah the part about him mixing his federal wrongful conviction money with gambling proceeds is beyond stopid... but come on the guy opened his first bank account in his late 60's early 70's.

One would think Limone would never ever look back at the past with over $30 million and in his pocket and 30 lost years, but the facts are he did and it's no secrete he got caught and seemed very close to both Carmine and Anthony, real close, like a mentor.

he's easily the last of a dying breed. the I took an oath breed that is

Jcb77 I read the fat tony fbi files, in 1964 peter limone and jerry where making frequent meetings with probaly the biggest bookman them yrs. I just seen some shit chart limone came up in the valachi hearings. Boston or rhode island never had a phil leonetti talking about his uncles gettin made in 1954. Im guessing jerry an all his bros got made in the50tys baby shacks,limone,rudy s I think.is st.laurents uncle.limone did 30 yrs sneakin I look on this forums pic merlino takes pics in his zone. Thats fed parole not state.

anyone have a picture of angelesco?

Thats an alright one, the earlier ones are good pics though, the ones where statie pasquirillo is escorting angelesco into the danvers statie barracks, angelesco tries to hide his face, and even tries to distort his face for the photographers..... he was wearing a sox cap, sweats, and nike's... they used to be on howie carrs site a couple years back but doubt there still up there... there not on the web anymore.

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2006/02/24/1140778941_0543.jpg


http://bostonherald.com/sites/default/fi...ook02292008.jpg

Heres a picture of gene.... the funniest part is in the 80's he was a short skinny dago now hes huge..
http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/f228fc8c94_book02292008.jpg

JUST A SIDE NOTE... BILLY IS BLATENTLY BEANED OUT IN THIS PICTURE... HAHA

Thanks southend and lic. Was curious cause I've neven seen angelesco before, just gene... Haha fuck the pic of him that you guys both posted he looks like he's mid nod out. Must have took a big shot of dope before that one.
How is it possible he has so many bodies and has never been charged? Especially since it seems like he doesn't mind shooting people with 30 witnesses around?
Another thing, I find it strange that the old timers would make him considering he seems like such a bad drug user. Don't people have issues wirh that? I know I wouldn't want a doper around me when shit hit the fan. Once they start withdrawing they're going to cooperate in a second for a bundle. I guess its not too surprising though considering rossetti was also a long time heroin user and he was a fucking captain..still kind of baffles me.

any zip left in springfield?
or was fusco the only one to begin with?

thats south ends cup of tea id say! yea billy def beaned out there! i was thinking it then scrolled and was like yup he knew too

I aways figured Sicilians were the "zips" because they speak the dialect so fast. Emilio Fusco comes from Sorrento, Italy. Lot of people don't know that Adolfo Bruno was also born in Italy but came over at a way earlier age than Emilio. The Manzi's, not LCN but players nonetheless, the older ones atleast are mostly Italian born from Quindici, Avellino. The Manzi's remaining family in Italy are part of the Nuova Camorra clan.
Interesting story about Carmine Manzi's ...Camorra member

Oh. I thought that Fusco was from Quindici too.

By zip I meant italian-born guys, buy you got that. Thanks.
Are these Manzis still active?

What's the current status of the Springfield crew anyway?
Anyone local stepping up or will the bronx send someone up there?

Hi Lic,

FYI-I don't speak with RATS, my information comes from much more credible sources in law enforcement at both the state and federal level. I may not be a street guy, but my grandfather as well as two of my uncles were in the life and I grew up around it, so I'm also not stupid. While some of the guys may respect Limone, there are also a lot of guys who just don't get it. The days of LCN being all powerful are over for good. Citizens aren't afraid to run to the feds, "most" of the younger guys wouldn't hesitate to flip because the repercussions just aren't enforced the way they were in the old days. New England hasn't replenished the ranks and that is why they are a dying organization, like a majority of other families around the country. I am well aware of Larry Zannino...but the fact of the matter is that there aren't any young guys who could have as much influence as Zannino once had. There is no doubt in my mind that Limone could hold his own, but nearing 80 years old has its downside as well. His family will be taken care of for the rest of their life "if they're smart." I just don't believe that he is going to want to be active on a day to day basis because running a crime family in this day and age is no easy task and has more headaches with underlings and "the new generation" of wannabees. Guys like Limone, Patriarca, Manocchio and Zannino are a dying breed. They took their oaths seriously and more importantly, they adhered very strictly to the rules of Cosa Nostra from the old country. These 3rd and 4th generation Italian Americans don't have the same ideologies as the guys who were either born and raised there or are 1st generation Italians whose families emigrated to America. The point I'm trying to make is that the mafia is not an occupation of choice or as attractive as it once was. There have been so many informants in New England that the Feds have their finger on the pulse and who knows how many others are secretly talking to law enforcement. Anthony DiNunzio was a laughing stock and he did no favors for the Patriarca Crime Family...if anything, he weakened it tremendously with his continued enforcement of the shakedown of strip clubs while he knew that he and others were being investigated. Ducking for a while until the heat went away would have been the smart thing to do, but instead, he found it to be more important to ensure that everybody knew he was acting boss while playing the role of tough guy for the Gambino's in NY, on top of the fact that he was being recorded a few months into his reign as acting boss. Angiulo should have whacked him 30 years ago, as Anthony had no business sitting in the big chair. He obviously demonstrated utter stupidity which proved he had no idea of what he was doing. While Zannino may have liked Peter Limone in the 1960's, that was 50 plus years ago and Zannino is dead and it's 2013. If you can't even properly wash your money, you probably shouldn't be sitting in the big chair. Again, my point is that age and attrition is going to reduce the Patriarca Crime Family to some made guys operating on the street, but the hierarchy and the family structure is going to cease to exist, just like 18 out of the 26 other mafia families who cease to exist today.

the same old story with this jcb,listen you say you dont get info from rats but the law, where you thinkthey get their info from? rats,so lic s right and most rats only tell half truths , and on and on with the demise of the lcn enough,go write a book black mass part 2 its prob be as inaccurate as the first

Spoken like a true scholar...Here is the bottom line paddy: The Patriarca Crime Family has been DECIMATED...drug addicts and rats have sunk the ship. Do you actually believe they are a strong family? The old timers that you and lic mentioned are close to wearing depends and the fact is that nobody is scared of them anymore. 26 original mafia families and now there are 8. I'd have to say that the government of the U.S are winning the war on OC. For the record, I am not on the government's side, but the fact of the matter is that the FBI has more knowledge than you do. Albeit from informers and other undercover law enforcement officials, but you're leaving out the fucking STUPIDITY of guys like Limone and company. Remember, some of those assholes were caught on tape and Limone is such a sharp, smart guy...YEAH RIGHT!!!! His bank deposit for over $150k into his checking account demonstrated how brilliant a mobster he really is. If I'm not mistaken, in 1989 the FBI actually was at the making ceremony in Medford, right? I must say, that was a pretty smart move for LCN in New England, I'm sure Raymond Sr. was rolling over in his grave. Not looking to write a book on New England OC, it's been played out enough. You say rats, I say stupidity...When you allow law enforcement to catch you on tape discussing business and threatening to bury people alive, you deserve to get ass raped in prison. I'm sure Anthony DiNunzio's diabetes will improve while in the can since he isn't eating pounds of provolone. LCN will NEVER win against the US Government. You could bitch about the government all you want, but who do you think protects your ass from being attacked by our enemies? It sure isn't Peter Limone or Spucky or anybody else in the organization. FYI-If you claim to be connected, you shouldn't be on a website talking about OC. The tree house code of Omerta is a joke, very clearly demonstrated by several key guys in New England. They got themselves to blame, not the government. The government is doing their job, the mafia isn't doing theirs (which is to avoid indictments/prison). Same old story with Paddy, he knows more than everyone. Maybe you should write your book because you know more than anybody else and you get confrontational when somebody has a differing opinion or facts to share. Angiulo never made it back before his pork chops got cold, do you actually think the Patriarca Crime Family is strong right now? C'mon Man!

of course i dont think that their as strong as back in day, no family is, and as the decreased number of families prob has alot to do w/ a number of things, consolidation,e'g' gambinos taking over a certain area etc. and another may be alot of the guys from the old days were immigrants,not italian americans,so again theres various reasons, russians,asians etc. but its def not out, just not many ppl wanna go to a guy to place a horse bet my age as they did in the 60's also theres otb, casinos ect,