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Re: Breaking Bad's Final Episodes
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09/09/13 06:55 AM
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I liked how that guy was trying to put the moves on Lydia but she wasn't having it. If the show is true to itself there's no way that Gomez and Hank survive that ending. That was some Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid/ Takers stuff right there.
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives." Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungleāas old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Breaking Bad's Final Episodes
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09/09/13 01:13 PM
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That shootout was a joke, at least so far. Several hundred rounds fired and not one guy got hit. C'mon, where did these losers learn to shoot? I've heard of spray and pray but that was comical. Well i guess a few thousand rounds later Hank and his partner will be goners. Not so sure about Jesse, though i hope Walter kills him himself which i doubt he will. So maybe the nuts do kill him but for some reason i think he'll be around to the final show or maybe the one before it. But maybe not, not sure on that one. First time in the entire history of the show i thought Walt was an idiot. He lead the DEA, Jesse and the Nazi lovers straight to his multi hundred million dollar stash. Way to go Walt. Almost seems like the only people not there were Badger and Skinny Pete.  I would bet at least Hank and his partner are history and Todd and his uncles crew of loons take Walts stash of cash because they know Walt didn't go out there for the view. Then the final showdown will be between Walter and the gang of psycho's. Now in the flashforward Walter has a full head of hair so i guess some time passes before the final showdown. And didn't one of the cars have a New Hamshire tag on it? At the diner Walt took a bag out the car (with the NH tag) and then puts it in the one with the M60 machine gun. So maybe Walt was in New Hampshire after the big shootout?? Thoughts? Predictions?
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Re: Breaking Bad's Final Episodes
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09/10/13 12:06 AM
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That is true....you never know with these writers. I could be completely wrong on all of it. It wouldn't be the first time. lol
Ivy was right about when Jesse said he wanted to hurt Walt where he would hurt the most. It was his cash, but i never thought Walter would lead half the town to his multi million dollar stash in the desert. That did surprise me, but the thought of Jesse burning up his cash really shook him up bad.
I wonder if Lydia will somehow fit into the final equation. Not really sure why, but for some reason i like her. Walt not thinking, but reacting on pure emotion, is understandable. That money is all he has to show for selling his soul and, with it gone, it would have all been for nothing. I think we should wait until the opening of the next episode to make judgments about how realistic it is. My guess is, like this one, it will start immediately where the prior one left off. Hank and Gomez making it to the car for cover is conceivable, I suppose, but neither of them living. I agree with Lilo that the most realistic case is for them both to end up dead, which is what I think will happen. As for Jesse, I think Walt will convince Todd's uncle not to kill him. Where it goes from there, I have no idea. RJ Mitte (Walt Jr.) says the next episode will be even crazier than this one was.
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Re: Breaking Bad's Final Episodes
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Breaking Bad spin-off prequel announced 1 hour ago
Bob Odenkirk (right) stars as scheming lawyer Saul Goodman in Breaking Bad opposite Bryan Cranston US network AMC has announced a Breaking Bad spin-off prequel, based around the character of lawyer Saul Goodman.
Better Call Saul will see Bob Odenkirk reprise his role as the crooked criminal lawyer in the one-hour show, AMC and Sony Pictures said.
It added the spin-off would "focus on the evolution" of the character before he came to represent crystal meth kingpin Walter White.
AMC did not say when production was due to start or when the show would air.
The title of the prequel is taken from a season two episode of Breaking Bad where Walt and Jesse hire Goodman after seeing the lawyer's TV commercial featuring the slogan, "Better Call Saul!".
With Goodman serving as the comic relief in the original series, the spin-off is expected to be more comedic than Breaking Bad.
Creator Vince Gilligan first hinted at the possibility of a series centred around the scheming lawyer last year.
"I think a Saul Goodman show could have great legs," he told Entertainment Weekly.
"I love the idea of a lawyer who will do anything to avoid going to court. He's always going to settle on the courthouse steps."
'Happy to do it'
Actor Odenkirk also said in an interview in April he was excited at the prospect of a spin-off.
Saul Goodman first appeared in season two of Breaking Bad "Vince is still really busy with the show, so we haven't talked very in-depth about it, but he clearly thinks it's a possibility," he told Vulture.
"And I've certainly told him that if there was some way to see more of Saul, then I would be happy to do it."
According to industry website Deadline, the spin-off has been in the works for months, however protracted talks between AMC and Sony Pictures delayed an agreement.
Other networks and outlets - including subscription site Netflix - had reportedly been interested in picking up the show had negotiations between AMC and Sony Pictures failed.
The show is expected to receive the go-ahead for a full series once contracts and licensing agreements are finalised.
Breaking Bad is set to end this month after five series.
Its stars have won five Emmys, including three acting accolades for lead star Bryan Cranston and two for Aaron Paul, who plays Walt's former student-turned-business partner Jesse Pinkman.
It has been nominated for six Primetime Emmy Awards this year, including best drama series.
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Re: Breaking Bad's Final Episodes
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09/15/13 05:44 AM
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Breaking Bad Exclusive: Vince Gilligan Teases "Heart Attack" Conclusion, Saul Goodman Spinoff TV Fanatic September 13, 2013Brace yourself but, in case you werenāt keep track, only three episodes of Breaking Bad remain. Now, take a deep breath because, according to creator Vince Gilligan, who jumped on the phone with me this morning, youāre going to need all your strength to keep it together for those installments. No spoilers here but we did talk about the series as a whole, the return of Waltās cancer, Toddās role since he came on the scene late in the game and, of course, the Saul Goodman spinoff. Here's what the man who created one of the all-time classic series has to say about its end ... TV Fanatic: When you hear people say that Breaking Bad is possibly or definitely the best show in TV history, how do you wrap your head around that? Can you? Vince Gilligan: Itās insanely flattering and feels good to hear anyone say that but it also scares me greatly for the future. Letās put it this way, it would even be more enjoyable and pleasurable if I had announced my retirement from the business but since I want to go on and do other things after this, human nature being what it is, you think āhow am I going to top this?ā Really, the odds are Iām not, ever. This is really lightning in a bottle. We writers on the show did our best to do the best work we were capable of but everybody does that. Everybody is always working the hardest to do their best work. Thereās a sudden element of lightning in a bottle, some magic, that came about with this thing that was not due to me, it was due to the luck of casting the actors we didā¦we always cast the best actors you can find, too, but you never know if theyāre going to click but this ensemble did. TVF: Bringing Waltās cancer back, I was trying to figure out the reason for that. Was it to bring back some of his humanity? VG: I donāt think there was an act of thought to give Walt his humanity back. Unfortunately, a big part of humanity is our darker sides and our less loveable and more evil side. I think that is as human as our goodness. As bad as Walt has gotten he has, depending on how you look at it fortunately or unfortunately, remained human. Having said all of that, Waltās cancer returning felt like a fitting plot development to the writers and to me because cancer, as a plot engine, is what started this whole journey and it seemed like it would feel, perhaps, like a loose end if the cancer didnāt come back. It also felt real because weāve all probably all known someone in our lives who very valiantly fought cancer and then a few years later, or 10 years later, 20 years later, back it comes rearing itās ugly head. The two-pronged answer is it seemed very realistic to us and it also seemed proper that it make a reappearance in order for that main plot engine of the series at the end of the day to not feel like a loose end. TVF: I donāt want spoilers even for myself but the last episode ended on this fantastic shootout ā God Bless Michelle MacLaren for doing such a good job directing that episode ā but how would you define these last three episodes? VG: I think these last three episodes, not to overstate it, and you could say this about the last eight, but with these last three in particular you need to install a seat belt on your sofa, you need to wear a crash helmet and a diaper. [laughs] I tell ya, this next episode (entitled āOzymandiasā), I think for my money, is the best episode we ever had had or ever will have. It was written by Moira Walley-Beckett and directed by Rian Johnson. I think people are going to have trouble breathing after this thing airs. Itās tremendous and itās a great, great hour of television and Iām as proud as I can be of the two episodes that air after that one and both of them are a hell of a wild ride, too. I couldnāt be more proud of these final eight episodes or these last three episodes. I think theyāre going to leave us with some sleepless nights. TVF: I want to ask about Todd (Jesse Plemons). He makes me so nervous with his laid back-ness but is he a threat or an asset moving forward? VG: I can talk about my perceptions of him and the actor who plays him. I donāt think I can answer your question of asset versus threat because that would be a spoiler. But I think Todd is a character who the writers and I really grew fond of a large part because we love the actor who plays him. Jesse Plemons has brought so much of the character and increased our understanding of the character just in the way heās chosen to play him. I think Toddā¦[laughs]ā¦is just kind of the most loveable sociopath that weāve ever come across! He doesnāt seem to have an understanding of other peopleās feelings in a sense ofā¦the best way I can put it is when he shot that poor kid on the dirt bike. I donāt think he enjoyed doing it just like he wouldnāt enjoy swatting a fly. Itās not like he doesnāt get any pleasure from the act of killing. It just needed to be done. Itās like āI think Iām going to go get a sandwich now.ā Heās got a screw loose! The guy is damaged, for sure, but thereās no ill will there, ya know? TVF: Youāve worked with these actors for so long now. Was there a moment in these last eight that surprised you when you actually saw certain scenes on film? VG: Yeah, Iāve had that feeling constantly with these actors. They really spoil ya! Theyāve spoiled me for all future work, honestly. I knew they were great when we hired them but I didnāt know how great. As we got more and more episodes under our belt, my appreciation for these folks only increased. A good example is Dean Norris and that amazing scene that he plays in 509 when he is in his garage and he and Walt have their first confrontation, where all the cards are on the table and both guys realize that Hank knows who he really is. I thought that scene was tremendous and Dean was fantastic, as was Bryan. I think thereās a scene with Aaron Paul that just made the hair stand up on the back of my neck. Itās one weāve already seen out in the desert when he says to Walt, āWhy donāt you just tell me the truth and say that you want me to leave because otherwise youāre going to kill me.ā Thereās another one coming up two episodes from now with Aaron Paul, which I will not say what happens but it is an electrifying moment of acting. There are moments, honestly, throughout, and just when I get complacent saying āYeah, these guys are great,ā thereās another bravura moment that just makes you think āI am so blessed to be working with these people.ā They are at the apex, the tiptop of their game. Theyāre head and shoulders above anyone elseās game. Iām biased as hell but this is the best cast on TV ever. These guys are so fucking good. I canāt even put it into words properly. TVF: We got the news of the Saul Goodman spinoff this week. Whatās the tone of the show going to be since Saul tends to lean more towards the comedic side of things? VG: I donāt think itās going to be an out-and-out comedy but I think there is going to be more laughs and more comedic than certainly Breaking Bad was, though thatās not saying a lot, is it? But we always put as much humor as we could fit into Breaking Bad because I always felt that a show as dark as Breaking Bad would be unwatchable if it took itself too seriously and if it was relentlessly grim so we needed as much humor as we could find to leaven the darkness. With that in mind, if Breaking Bad is ratio-wise 75% heavy to 25% comedic, which is probably a fair guess, then I think what Peter [Gould] and I are thinking of is the Saul Goodman show would be the flip of that. Donāt hold me to that ratio but thatās the basic idea. Itās certainly not a sitcom but itās lighter in general with some moments of real drama because Saul deals with some hardened characters and will have dealt with some hardened characters before Walter White. TVF: Going off the heavy and the light, in these last three Breaking Bad Season 5 episodes, is there any lightness? Even in the āToāhajiileeā episode, we had Toddās phone with the Thomas Dolby āShe Blinded Me With Scienceā ring tone. Any room in these last three? VG: As I said, weād put those more humorous moments whenever we can and I was fearful going into these final eight that there would be no more room for humor, a chuckle or a laugh. I figured in these final eight weād have no room at all for that kind of stuff and I was very heartened to learn that I was wrong. Even in these final three, which are as heart attack/serious as any episodes of Breaking Bad have ever been, believe it or not, there is still room for a fleeting moment of levity, if you will. http://www.tvfanatic.com/2013/09/breaking-bad-exclusive-vince-gilligan-teases-heart-attack-conclu/
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Re: Breaking Bad's Final Episodes
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"VF: I donāt want spoilers even for myself but the last episode ended on this fantastic shootout ā God Bless Michelle MacLaren for doing such a good job directing that episode ā but how would you define these last three episodes?
VG: I think these last three episodes, not to overstate it, and you could say this about the last eight, but with these last three in particular you need to install a seat belt on your sofa, you need to wear a crash helmet and a diaper. [laughs] I tell ya, this next episode (entitled āOzymandiasā), I think for my money, is the best episode we ever had had or ever will have. It was written by Moira Walley-Beckett and directed by Rian Johnson.
I think people are going to have trouble breathing after this thing airs. Itās tremendous and itās a great, great hour of television and Iām as proud as I can be of the two episodes that air after that one and both of them are a hell of a wild ride, too. I couldnāt be more proud of these final eight episodes or these last three episodes. I think theyāre going to leave us with some sleepless nights."
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Re: Breaking Bad's Final Episodes
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Well it went pretty much like i thought it would. Hank and his partner are history and Todds uncles crew got his cash. And guess what next weeks episode is called? "The Granite State" And guess what state that is.....New Hampshire.  Really good show tonight, can't wait to see the last 2 episodes.
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Re: Breaking Bad's Final Episodes
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That Todd is a real piece of work... "Sorry for your loss".  Looks like he worked over Jesse pretty good too. Vince Gilligan said Jesse has a great scene coming up....i wonder if that will be his last scene? Or does he make it to the final episode? Ok so it looks like Walt goes out of town for awhile. When he comes back he has a full head of hair so he must be gone for some time. And then what? Go after Jack and his crew? Hell, Walts lucky he got to keep a barrel of his cash. Jack should of put Walt in that grave with Hank. Big mistake on his part letting Walt live and giving him 11 mil to keep. Great episode. I really liked that scene with Walt talking to Skylar on the phone after he took their daughter.
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Re: Breaking Bad's Final Episodes
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09/17/13 12:17 AM
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That Todd is a real piece of work... "Sorry for your loss". The guy is a good actor. Vince Gilligan said the way he plays the character has really shaped how the writers write him. The nonchalant way he goes about his business is just cold. Like there's nothing there. I can't remember where I saw it but there was a rumor online, before the last episode aired, that Jesse would survive the shootout and be forced to cook for Toddy's uncle's crew. That ended up being true. Another prediction from the same place said Walt would rescue Jesse. So we'll see... Incidentally, some have said that Walt knew the cops were listening on the phone and he intentionally talked to Skyler that way in order to take suspicion off her.
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