Klydon, my friend, you and I and others are wasting time with these knuckle dragging right wing holes. They sonsider their opinions, however ill advised to be "facts," and there is nothing that can be donne to change their minds. I'm quits with these people and their posts. Just take heart in the dact they cnstitute about 23 per cent of the electorate, and they will prevent the Republicans from taking the White House for at least 11 more years, assuming Hillary does 8. By then Ted Cruz and Tea Party will be trivia pursuit questions.