Of course none of them would have had to serve that long if John had let them plead guilty. Now look at the Genovese today where plea bargaining is just part of the process. If a guy with a lot of weight takes a plea and goes away, another guy is coming out at the same time after a 3-5 year sentence to take his place. It's really one of the reasons they were able to stay on top of the heap after Chin went away.