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Re: Mob restaurants in NYC
[Re: SonnyBlackstein]
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10/14/13 10:46 PM
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LittleMan
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Matty the Horse passed away, so it makes sense Umberto's is under another person's name.
You shit-kicking, stinky, horse-manure-smelling motherfucker you! If you ever get out of line over there again, I'll smash your fucking head so hard you won't be able to get that cowboy hat on. You hear me? Fucking hick. -Nicky (Casino)
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Re: Mob restaurants in NYC
[Re: SonnyBlackstein]
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10/14/13 11:33 PM
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I know nothing about the mab here. In 27 years, I haven't heard about them at all except that they carbombed themselves to death a few years before I was born. There are a few OC things here (child trafficking bust, russian using cloned credited cards, black thugs, etc) but no mob. I talked to an =ex city cop who said they weren't that big (in comparison to other cities) back in the hey day and it was basically nothing when he retired (early 2000s). I would be shocked to find out that there was anything mob related. Even the last bosses kids got crapped on by the city when they were operating a night club here. I've heard a few people say that there is some suspicious things about slay and the marionites, but I don't really know anthing about it. I recently heard from someone that a bar ( about 10 minutes from my house) in north county is a hang out for "bad bikers" but I don't have any other details. St. Louis is a town where there is a good chance of getting mugged, but not of finding signifigant OC (compared to other cities). There have been some scandals, but now much else. Also, there are a few nice spots in STL, but, much like Buffalo, it is a city in decline. I'm sure that there is also marijuana and meth from the ozarks around here too. I knew someone who said he new a musician who blew both his hands off cooking meth.
That was a horrible structured, rambling paragraph.
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Re: Mob restaurants in NYC
[Re: StLguy]
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10/15/13 02:15 AM
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Ivy you listed bamontes twice. Thanks for the correction. "Umberto's Clam House (Manhattan, Bronx?) - Robert Ianniello/Genovese family"
I thought this guy was named Matthew Ianello. This is the place Joe Gallo was shot, right?
Robert Ianniello was running it even before the Horse died. I have to take issue with Rao's Ivy.
Is Frank considered an associate of the westside?
Is it a predominantly Westside joint?
I was under the impression it was the Vegas of Restaurants. That is, open territory.
(And appreciate the list too by the by) Some of it I just copied and pasted from other lists when I compiled that one. Not sure why it was listed as specifically a Genovese joint.
Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.
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Re: Mob restaurants in NYC
[Re: JoeP]
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10/15/13 10:06 AM
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Flushing
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A good article about Gambino Capo buying Queens restaurant called "The White House". The late Randolph Pizzolo tried to kill someone at his old restaurant, "Caffe on the Green". http://nypost.com/2011/03/06/family-restaurant/' In April 2002, Gambino crime family associate Darren D’Amico was shot in the leg outside of the Cafe on the Green restaurant in Bayside. It is speculated that Bonanno crime family associate Randolph Pizzolo was responsible for the crime. He was subsequently murdered on a hit called by Vincent "Vinny Gorgeous" Basciano. Basciano is now serving life in prison without parole'
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Re: Mob restaurants in NYC
[Re: Flushing]
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10/15/13 11:55 AM
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SonnyBlackstein
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A good article about Gambino capo Edit: Listed as a Soldier, not a Capo (but good article, appreciated) Q: Anyone know who he's with?
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MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
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Re: Mob restaurants in NYC
[Re: IvyLeague]
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10/15/13 12:24 PM
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LittleMan
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Some of it I just copied and pasted from other lists when I compiled that one. Not sure why it was listed as specifically a Genovese joint.
I always thought Rao's was a mob restaurant, which was also a celebrity restaurant, known for hard to reserve tables. I read the celebs showed up trying to get glimpses of the mob eating there. Even though it was always very crowded, they always had a large table roped off in case connected members wanted to stop in for a bite to eat.
You shit-kicking, stinky, horse-manure-smelling motherfucker you! If you ever get out of line over there again, I'll smash your fucking head so hard you won't be able to get that cowboy hat on. You hear me? Fucking hick. -Nicky (Casino)
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Re: Mob restaurants in NYC
[Re: StLguy]
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10/15/13 03:09 PM
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Throggs Neck
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"Umberto's Clam House (Manhattan, Bronx?) - Robert Ianniello/Genovese family"
I thought this guy was named Matthew Ianello. This is the place Joe Gallo was shot, right?
The original Umberto's location (where Gallo was shot) was on the corner of Hester and Mulberry (today it's called Da Gennaro). Umberto's moved to the corner of Mulberry and Broome about twenty years ago, and they recently moved again to another spot a little further south on Mulberry (between Hester and Grand). The Bronx location has only been there for about ten years. The food's okay. Matty's nephew Bobby runs the place now. Re Rao's: Frank Pellegrino isn't with anyone. They use that asshole equal opportunity. His partner Ron (who, unlike Frank, is actually related to the original Rao family by blood) is much more well liked by most everyone. And Rigoletto isn't a hangout, Sonny. Forget about who owns it. That place is that guy's pride and joy, and he and his wife take great pleasure in running it properly.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mob restaurants in NYC
[Re: Giancarlo]
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10/15/13 04:01 PM
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'In April 2002, Gambino crime family associate Darren D’Amico was shot in the leg outside of the Cafe on the Green restaurant in Bayside. It is speculated that Bonanno crime family associate Randolph Pizzolo was responsible for the crime. He was subsequently murdered on a hit called by Vincent "Vinny Gorgeous" Basciano. Basciano is now serving life in prison without parole' Is Darren D’Amico related to Jackie D’Amico? I don't know. Is Jackie from Massapequa? Massapequa man shot outside Bayside eatery: http://www.timesledger.com/stories/2002/15/20020411-archive210.html
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Re: Mob restaurants in NYC
[Re: pizzaboy]
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10/15/13 08:01 PM
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SonnyBlackstein
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Frank Pellegrino isn't with anyone. They use that asshole equal opportunity.
And Rigoletto isn't a hangout, Sonny. Forget about who owns it. That place is that guy's pride and joy, and he and his wife take great pleasure in running it properly. Watch you're P's n Q's there mister. Franks in the FBI ya know. Yes I did chuckle at sentence number two. And regards Rigoletto? Ive already fuhgotaboudit. I kill me too  (As always mate, good post and appreciated)
MORGAN: Why didn't you fight him at the park if you wanted to? I'm not goin' now, I'm eatin' my snack.
CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
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Re: Mob restaurants in NYC
[Re: SonnyBlackstein]
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10/16/13 12:47 PM
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LittleMan
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I was in NYC on business when all of the front pages of the tabloids covered a murder at Rao's. If you don't know the story, it's an interesting read.....reputed mobsters, the real life cop from The French Connection, celebrity restaurant and mob hangout, etc... Murder at Rao's
You shit-kicking, stinky, horse-manure-smelling motherfucker you! If you ever get out of line over there again, I'll smash your fucking head so hard you won't be able to get that cowboy hat on. You hear me? Fucking hick. -Nicky (Casino)
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Re: Mob restaurants in NYC
[Re: LittleMan]
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10/31/13 02:26 PM
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There was an article in the Wall Street Journal earlier this month about restaurants frequented by wise guys, although it's more about Jerry Capeci and Tom Robbins plugging their new book: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304171804579119571381244450I thought this little tidbit was interesting: By the way, Mr. Capeci asserted that the "Five Families"—Luchese, Gambino, Bonanno, Genovese and Colombo—still exist in the New York area, each with a boss at the top. And they still meet to resolve issues, such as labor racketeering, more or less peacefully. "One rule the commission put in place was to outlaw the killings that put so many gangsters in prison for the rest of their lives," Mr. Capeci explained, "and that helped the government create informants because people were looking at so much time in prison they flipped."
“‘Remember when’ is the lowest form of conversation.” - Tony Soprano
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