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Re: NFL 2013 [Re: olivant] #740624
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I think Richardson will benefit in Indy. The Browns haven't had a solid passing game and as a result defenses could stack against the run. I think he'll find better running lanes with the Colts and will be able to utilize his speed. He's a very good receiver too, which will give Luck another weapon in short time.

The Browns haven't done well drafting and developing franchise qbs from Tim Couch to Brady Quinn to Colt McCoy.

But the way things are going, they very well may beat my Steelers, 9-6.

Good luck with the Indians, goombah. They have the best schedule to finish the season, and I'm betting they win one of the wildcards.

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Yes Richardson is a 1,000 yard rusher all day. He will benefit more in Indy without a doubt.

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Originally Posted By: klydon1


But the way things are going, they very well may beat my Steelers, 9-6.



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Originally Posted By: klydon1


But the way things are going, they very well may beat my Steelers, 9-6.

Good luck with the Indians, goombah. They have the best schedule to finish the season, and I'm betting they win one of the wildcards.


The Browns beat the Steelers about once every 5 years. It took Charlie Batch & 8 turnovers last year for us to eek out a win.

I hope that you are correct about the Indians. They have made great strides this year and are going to be relevant with Francona. But they lack a superstar hitter, which I think will be a deciding factor.

It is very nice to see the Pirates do well this year, particularly after their collapse last year.

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Originally Posted By: goombah
I hope that you are correct about the Indians. They have made great strides this year and are going to be relevant with Francona. But they lack a superstar hitter, which I think will be a deciding factor.

It is very nice to see the Pirates do well this year, particularly after their collapse last year.


I don't want to sidetrack the thread by focusing on baseball, but I wouldn't be too worried about lacking a superstar hitter in the lineup. In the postseason teams with effective pitching can remove the impact of an individual slugger by pitching around or not challenging him. It was done to Bonds, and I've seen it happen to Ryan Howard, who tried too hard to make something happen by expanding his already expanded strike zone. a team with a balanced lineup removes this option.

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In the regular season Peyton Manning is far better than Eli, whose regular seasons are inconsistent and unspectacular. But in the postseasons I don't think there's any doubt that Eli has been the better quarterback.

And this season it looks as though inconsistent and unspectacular could be good enough to win the NFC East.

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Chiefs to win the Super Bowl??


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St. Louis Rams did in 1999 after a 4-12 season...I still say Seattle, SF, Denver are the favorites but I did put $250 on Pittsburgh as 20-1 underdogs.

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Originally Posted By: JCB1977
St. Louis Rams did in 1999 after a 4-12 season...I still say Seattle, SF, Denver are the favorites but I did put $250 on Pittsburgh as 20-1 underdogs.


I see you are from Mass my friend. Did you not fancy the Patriots for the big show?


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I have lived in Massachusetts for almost 10 years, but I grew up outside of Pittsburgh across the border in Ohio (suburb of Youngstown). I actually am a huge Miami Dolphins fan...Big Dan Marino fan. Obviously, I haven't any anything to be excited about for years...but I like Miami's Coach a lot and I love that there is actually something to be excited about finally...for now anyway:)

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Originally Posted By: klydon1
In the regular season Peyton Manning is far better than Eli, whose regular seasons are inconsistent and unspectacular. But in the postseasons I don't think there's any doubt that Eli has been the better quarterback.

And this season it looks as though inconsistent and unspectacular could be good enough to win the NFC East.


Peyton, more often than not, has come up small in the playoffs. See 1999-2005, 2010, and last year. In baseball terms, Peyton is "Mr. May," which is the snarky nickname George Steinbrenner once used to describe Dave Winfield. I would call Peyton "Mr. Regular Season."

Eli has two Super Bowl rings. The first came against a team that was 3 minutes from having a perfect 19-0 season. His second ring was earned by calmly making great throws in the 4th quarter of the Super Bowl and having a fabulous playoff run.

Edit: Eli also has two of the most iconic throws in SB history. He threw a rope along the sidelines in his most recent SB. Of course, he engineered one of the most amazing plays in a Super Bowl, where he nearly was sacked, threw the ball up for grabs, and it was caught against the WR's helmet.

This season is wide open. The NFC seems stronger with teams like SF, Seattle, Atlanta, & New Orleans. The AFC is experiencing a change of the recent guard as teams like New England and Pittsburgh are getting old. And not since 1999's Denver Broncos have I seen a defending Super Bowl champion have such a roster upheaval than the Baltimore Ravens. Houston, Denver and perhaps Indy & Cincinnati all have the talent to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl. But each of these teams have flaws. If I had to pick an AFC team, it would be Denver. But all it takes is another bad Peyton Manning playoff game and the Broncos could be on the outside looking in.

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So what do we know at the 1/4 point in the season? Seattle & Denver are scary good, the Ravens are not repeating, Peyton Manning shows no sign of slowing down, and both Dallas & Cincy are pretenders. We also see that RG3 is not fully healthy, Jacksonville is as bad of a team as the 2008 Lions, and that the only class of 2004 QBs playing well is Phillip Rivers.

Both NY coaches could lose their jobs, although firing a two time SB winning coach would not make much sense.

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Jax vs Denver in 2 weeks. The early projection from Vegas oddsmakers is a 28 point line!


You shit-kicking, stinky, horse-manure-smelling motherfucker you! If you ever get out of line over there again, I'll smash your fucking head so hard you won't be able to get that cowboy hat on. You hear me? Fucking hick. -Nicky (Casino)
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Broncos have beaten the stinko Giants, the fake Eagles, the poopy ass Raiders and the OK Ravens. Maybe they are not as good as their record (and Pay-ton's records) might suggest.


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If 28 is the final line for Denver- Jax, then you go with the underdog. This isn't college. There are too many variables to make that a safe bet on Denver.

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Colts beat the Jags by 34. But I'd definitely take the under. Peyton might only play 3 quarters again.

And about Peyton in the playoffs... Yeah that 18-1 Pats team? The
One that set all those offensive records? Eli did a great job on defense especially the pass rush against Brady..




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I never thought I'd live to see the day when my Steelers were ranked 29th out of 32 teams. Madonne!


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Originally Posted By: olivant
I never thought I'd live to see the day when my Steelers were ranked 29th out of 32 teams. Madonne!


lol It's only week 4. The playoffs may be a long shot, but I don't really guage a team's overall strength until Thanksgiving. They're no top ten 10 team, but when it's all said and done, they won't or at least shouldn't be a botton ten team.

So while we are currently #29 out of 32, all we can do to get some satisfaction is point and laugh at the three wretched teams behind us. ohwell

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Well Kly, I do expect the Steelers to come storming back when they play the Jets. The addition of Brown should help open up holes for Bell. That will give Ben the play-option and slow down the rush. If he's throwing for 300-400 yards now, he should be able to connect with his receivers with a reduced pass rush.


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If the NFC East were a horse, they'd shoot it in the head.

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Originally Posted By: klydon1
If the NFC East were a horse, they'd shoot it in the head.


Why? Because their collective record is 5-14? confused


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Obviously not a fan of Dallas,but have to say their linebacker Sean Lee is some player!!


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Originally Posted By: Yogi Barrabbas
Obviously not a fan of Dallas,but have to say their linebacker Sean Lee is some player!!


That's because he's a tough kid from Pittsburgh. wink Joe Paterno recruited many of his linebackers for "Linebacker U" from Pittsburgh.

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Wow, Pittsburgh beat the Jets!


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Originally Posted By: MaryCas
Wow, Pittsburgh beat the Jets!


I'll take the win with a grain of salt. Beating a New York team is like beating the one-legged fat kid in a race. smile

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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Originally Posted By: MaryCas
Wow, Pittsburgh beat the Jets!


I'll take the win with a grain of salt. Beating a New York team is like beating the one-legged fat kid in a race. smile


12 in a row coming up.


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Originally Posted By: klydon1
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Wow, Pittsburgh beat the Jets!


I'll take the win with a grain of salt. Beating a New York team is like beating the one-legged fat kid in a race. smile


I always used to trip that kid up, just to be safe shhh


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Forbes recently published a list of the most disliked players in the NFL.

Here’s the rundown:

1. Eagles quarterback Michael Vick
2. Chargers linebacker Manti Te'o
3. Detroit defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh
4. Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger
5. Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez


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Ndamukong Suh is the vilest, dirtiest player in the NFL since Conrad Dobler.

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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Ndamukong Suh is the vilest, dirtiest player in the NFL since Conrad Dobler.


You wonder how far the league will go. They are playing politics here, but that guy is a time bomb. When you see how blatant his violations are you can't help but think that someday there is going to be a tragedy. I think most players respect that their competitors are there to earn a living, just like they are. Therefore within the "brotherhood" there is a line you don't cross and Suh crosses it....often.


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