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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: mattsto]
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10/29/13 06:06 PM
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GaryMartin
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More about the Giancana era. These kinds of things really caused an uproar in The Outfit hierarchy. Scroll to the bottom of each page and click on additional pages. http://www.dougiethompson.com/kennedy-mafia1.html
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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: mattsto]
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10/29/13 08:50 PM
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GaryMartin
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Do you Chicago guys remember Larry Neumann? The link below is about two of his murder victims. Neumann was part of the "Hole in The Wall Gang." Just click on the "full story" and read about Neumann. Some good pictures are also included. Neumann worked for Spilotro. http://www.mchenrycounty1981.com
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Re: Chicago Outfit
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10/30/13 09:09 AM
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ChiTown
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Do you Chicago guys remember Larry Neumann? The link below is about two of his murder victims. Neumann was part of the "Hole in The Wall Gang." Just click on the "full story" and read about Neumann. Some good pictures are also included. Neumann worked for Spilotro. http://www.mchenrycounty1981.com Good read on Neuman...I wonder whether Tommy Amato was related to Joseph "Black Joe" Amato who ran McHenry County in the late 70s/early 80s.
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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: ChiTown]
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10/30/13 01:06 PM
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GaryMartin
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Do you Chicago guys remember Larry Neumann? The link below is about two of his murder victims. Neumann was part of the "Hole in The Wall Gang." Just click on the "full story" and read about Neumann. Some good pictures are also included. Neumann worked for Spilotro. http://www.mchenrycounty1981.com Good read on Neuman...I wonder whether Tommy Amato was related to Joseph "Black Joe" Amato who ran McHenry County in the late 70s/early 80s. I have no idea, ChiTown. I wasn't aware that "Black Joe" Amato ran McHenry County. These guys had so many connections. Unreal!
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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: ChiTown]
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10/31/13 03:49 PM
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funkster
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Not true at all, otherwise he and his brothers would have no reason to run from cameras when they show up at their companies...time and again, they run. Nor would they continue to associate with the ex-felons and known Outfit soldiers they continue to see.
DiFronzo isn't stupid. If he was legit, he wouldn't hang around his brother's companies all day like he does, nor have known Outfit associates and ex felons stopping by the premises. He also wouldn't have to stay so low-profile and modest...the guy has interests in car dealerships (major ones like Perillo, Mancari and Piemonte) along with everything from real estate to grocery stores to construction. He would be living in a mansion like his brother Pete or moving out of Chicago completely.
JKS and D&P are mob companies plain and simple...they continue to use their influence among politicians to get bids and use them. They employ the kids and relatives of made members and openly allow Outfit associates like Bobby Abbinanti, Tony Dote, Joe Belli and others to meet at their facilities. And that's exactly what I meant. Think you said it perfectly. Think calling those guys completely out of the game is a little misleading. NY guys being involved in concrete bidding and things like the windows case is kind of the same thing. Just a different kind of racketeering.
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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: funkster]
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10/31/13 04:24 PM
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Not true at all, otherwise he and his brothers would have no reason to run from cameras when they show up at their companies...time and again, they run. Nor would they continue to associate with the ex-felons and known Outfit soldiers they continue to see.
DiFronzo isn't stupid. If he was legit, he wouldn't hang around his brother's companies all day like he does, nor have known Outfit associates and ex felons stopping by the premises. He also wouldn't have to stay so low-profile and modest...the guy has interests in car dealerships (major ones like Perillo, Mancari and Piemonte) along with everything from real estate to grocery stores to construction. He would be living in a mansion like his brother Pete or moving out of Chicago completely.
JKS and D&P are mob companies plain and simple...they continue to use their influence among politicians to get bids and use them. They employ the kids and relatives of made members and openly allow Outfit associates like Bobby Abbinanti, Tony Dote, Joe Belli and others to meet at their facilities. And that's exactly what I meant. Think you said it perfectly. Think calling those guys completely out of the game is a little misleading. NY guys being involved in concrete bidding and things like the windows case is kind of the same thing. Just a different kind of racketeering. But that is exactly what they want you to think...that they are out of the game. You just have to use a little common sense and look beneath the surface of things. D&P and JKS get A LOT of contracts from tax payer funded projects...not just private. That is where the real crime lies because you know there is bid rigging happened and tax payers are the ones being fucked. I've heard that Jonny and/or his brothers used to post on ANP under a moniker like "Wisconsin Reader" or something. They would taunt Fosco and he even called them on it one time. The moniker makes sense because I've seen the DiFronzo compounds near Williams Bay in Wisconsin where Pete used to spend a lot of weekends. Marco, Bobby A and Pudge Matassa also have homes there. So while there is no way to probably prove it, the moniker makes sense.
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Re: Chicago Outfit
[Re: NorthsideIrish]
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10/31/13 05:16 PM
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According to the Family Secrets book by Jeff Coen, when Nick Calabrese spoke with the FBI he stated that he knew that Accardo was part of the Giancana hit, that LaPietra disposed of the gun and that his brother Frank and Ronnie Jarrett made the silencer for the gun Where in the book does it say that? I'm re-reading it and I don't remember that. It mentions that he told the Feds what he heard had happened. I don't remember that they actually stated what happened. I'm on p.70 now, so maybe it's later. Speaking of the book, anyone know who "flapjack" was/is that they refer to who owned a pancake house on the northside?
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Re: Chicago Outfit
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10/31/13 05:50 PM
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Re: Chicago Outfit
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11/01/13 10:37 AM
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funkster
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I thought funkster was referring to street rackets. Real gangster stuff. Sharking, extortion, etc. Johnny DiFronzo isn't involved in any of that anymore, hasn't really been since 1995ish. That's what I meant. Yeah its interesting how the old guard turns sometimes. Makes me think of Castellano and guys like Tommy Gambino. Stayed off the street, but did corporate gangster shit.
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Re: Chicago Outfit
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11/01/13 11:09 AM
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funkster
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There isn't too much out there on DiFronzo. The coolest thing I ever read about him was in Cooley's When Corruption Was King.
Cooley wears a wire and goes into his auto dealership and gets him on tape saying that he didn't have to pay back any of the bookies he owed; if I remember correctly because he was instrumental in helping them, in his capacity as a corrupt lawyer, with several other things.
Cooley says he did that so that people didn't think he flipped just because he was deeply in debt to the mob bookies.
Of course, people say that anyway. Its unfortunate how little we know about any of the Chicago guys, current and in the past. With the exception of Accardo, Giancana, Spilotro, and Calabrese Sr. I guess. Would love to know more about the life of guys like Aiuppa, Solano, and LaPietra. Nonos...always found that clip of DiFronzo leaving the federal building in the 80s interesting. Had that gangster swagger back then.
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Re: Chicago Outfit
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11/01/13 12:34 PM
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NorthsideIrish
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According to the Family Secrets book by Jeff Coen, when Nick Calabrese spoke with the FBI he stated that he knew that Accardo was part of the Giancana hit, that LaPietra disposed of the gun and that his brother Frank and Ronnie Jarrett made the silencer for the gun Where in the book does it say that? I'm re-reading it and I don't remember that. It mentions that he told the Feds what he heard had happened. I don't remember that they actually stated what happened. I'm on p.70 now, so maybe it's later. Speaking of the book, anyone know who "flapjack" was/is that they refer to who owned a pancake house on the northside? It is in the last chapter "end of an era" page 403
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