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The real power of the Patriarca Family ? #748502
11/14/13 03:01 PM
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since I saw the movie The Departed, and especially the scene where Leonardo DiCaprio beats the two of Providence who wanted to extort money to the shopkeeper,
I got curious,
after the death of Raymond Patriarca in 1984 In what ways has begun the slow decline of the family?
There has never been an open war between the Patriarcas and the Winter HIlls Gang?
  The Patriarca still inspire fear in Boston and Providence?
Since 1984, how many made men have died or have been made ?
and aside from Wikipedia,
anyone can give me information as possible about the boss who succeeded after Patriarca Sr.?

thanks in advance for the answers

Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748518
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The Italians and the Irish generally respected each other's territory. The decline of the family in the 1980's probably had more to do with the government onslaught against the mob, both there and nationally, than Patriarca dying. His son took over after that but it seems most considered him a weak leader. I'm not sure what was the FBI estimate for the family's size back in the mid-1980's but today there remain about 40-50 total members. Despite their decline, the Patriarcas are the only old OC group left in the region, according to the FBI.

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Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748551
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After Ray Jr went to prison there was a war for power that killed of a bunch of veterans and sent many others to prison.

Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748565
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Off topic but Raymonds grandson owns the parking lot across fron the old coin o matic and him and a few goons were standing out there one night I was on federal hill posing for pictures with passers by like he was a celebrity. So I figured why not and got a picture with him too. I've wondered since that day if he (i didn't ask his name i was only told he was Patriarcas grandson)Is involved in the family at all. Anyone know if any of Raymond Sr.actual family is involved in the LCN family of the same name?

Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748586
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With them just begging to put Junior back in the pen I seriously doubt he'd let his son get involved with the game. From what I hear he has done well in real estate so why risk it?

Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: Thaddeus] #748594
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Not to my knowledge...the grandson has never been mentioned in any federal affadavits. I don't think Junior ever wanted to be really involved, but felt it was more his duty to his father. He's a multi millionaire in real estate and his son is slowly taking over the real estate business.

Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748610
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this is a old chart of the family,can anyone give me a recent chart of make correction to these ?

NEW ENGLAND LCN FAMILY

Boss: Peter Limone
Underboss: Carmen "Big Cheese" DiNunzio
Consigliere:

Captain: William “Blackjack” DelSanto
Captain: Anthony DiNunzio
Captain: Matthew “Good Looking Matty” Guglielmetti Jr.
Captain: Mark Rossetti (became a rat)
Captain: Pryce Quintina
Captain: Anthony “Spucky” Spagnolo

Soldiers:

Joseph "Joe the Bishop" Achille Sr.
William "Billy" Angelesco
Donato "Danny" Angiulo
Francesco "Frank The Cat" Angiulo
Gennaro "Jerry" Angiulo
Anthony "Tony the Beaver" Ascenzia
Philip "Sonny" Baiona
Richard Bonafiglia
Pasquale "Patsy" Barone
Vincent Capone
Anthony "Chucky" Carlo
Fredrick "Freddy" Chiampa
Jonathan Cincotti
Robert "Bobby" Corrozza
Greg Costa
Salvatore D'Aquila
William "Billy Blackjack" Delsanto
Robert "Bobby Cigar" DeLuca
Biagio "Benny" DiGiacomo
Vincent Federico
Vincent "The Animal" Ferrara
Richard Floramo
Rocco "Rocky" Folco
Michael Frisoli
Pasquale Galea
Richard "The Pig" Gambale
Vincent "Dee Dee" Gioacchini
Mariano Grasso
Chester Iaconni
Frank Imbruglia
Joseph "Joe Black" LaMantina
Ralph "Ralphie Chong" LaMantina
Edward "Eddie" Lato
Dennis D. "Champagne" LePore
Joseph Manzi
Dominick Marangelli
Frank "BoBo" Marrapese
James Martorano
Alphonse "Horseshoe Al" Napolitano
Anthony Parillo
Joseph Paterno Jr.
Raymond J. "Junior" Patriarca
Americo "The Cigar" Petrillu
Junior Pingaro
Michael Proccillo
Mark Rossetti
Stephen Rosetti
Joseph Ruggiero
Anthony "The Saint" St. Laurent
Jonathan "Action Jackson" Salemme
Rudolph Sciarra
Alfred "Chippy" Scivola
John Scuderi
Frederick "Freddie The Neighbor" Simone
Alfred Siyola
Carmen Tortora

Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748613
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yes that list is quite old and many are ip or in wp or iu


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Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748614
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and no theres never been a war between wh and patriarch-as bc they fight internally for power, the irish sit back and laugh


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Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: paddy78] #748686
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The Irish are drunk half the day and Hogan and company are down to committing small time crimes, drug dealing...keeping the heroin on the streets for their own...real class acts

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Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: JCB1977] #748688
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Originally Posted By: JCB1977
The Irish are drunk half the day and Hogan and company are down to committing small time crimes, drug dealing...keeping the heroin on the streets for their own...real class acts


OK, FINAL WARNING. No more racist comments like this.


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Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748699
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instead of making racist comments on the Irish, someone has an updated chart of the Patriarcas ?

Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748700
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Irish cannibals ate all the Patriarcas.

Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748704
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Lol StLguy is on it today.

Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748729
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I don't think that was a racist comment. He meant the remnants of the Winter Hill gang are drunk and high on drugs all the time. That isn't far from true from what I've read and seen on the documentaries. I can only imagine it's gotten worse. Most of the younger mob guys are dealing and doing drugs too.

Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: mulberry] #748730
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"I can only imagine it's gotten worse"

Definitely. Cannibalism is worse. There must be a Boston Potato Famine occurring. The irish probably thought Potato was a made member of the Patriarca Family, so they devoured all of them.

Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748731
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That was racist mulberry, he only said drunk because they are Irish. Which is the most common stereotype there is

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Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748732
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"Irish" is an ethnicity, not a race. So no "racist" comment was made.

Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: NickyEyes1] #748734
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"he only said drunk because they are Irish"

The were Irish drunk. The Italians were eaten.
WHO HASN'T BEEN CONSUMED!?!?!?

Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748735
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What the fuck are you rambling on about st louis??


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Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: Dellacroce] #748739
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"What the fuck are you rambling on about st louis??"

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World Series Revenge!!!

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Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748745
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That's like saying sp*c isn't racist because it's against Mexicans which isn't a race. You're wrong.
And what the hell are you talking about STlguy?

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Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748747
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Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748755
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I'm Irish and that was a despicable, prejudiced comment. JCB is an a-hole who's time is running short. He brings NOTHING to the table. He doesn't deserve a warning.

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"And what the hell are you talking about STlguy?"

Boston will pay for it's world series victory with waves of gangster cannibalism and imaginary song monsters....and there are a lot of irish cannibals.

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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
That was racist mulberry, he only said drunk because they are Irish. Which is the most common stereotype there is


Thanks for the insight Nicky..I guess you learn something new everyday.

Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #748770
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ITALIANS RULES and stop insult the Irish.

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I pay the first pint,so do peace.






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Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: mulberry] #748773
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Thank you for seeing my point. I have plenty of Irish friends...and yes, I was referring to the Irish gang in south boston which is run by drunks and addicts. There was no malice in my statement about Whitey's old gang.

Re: The real power of the Patriarca Family ? [Re: mike68] #748774
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Quite the contrary actually, as I have provided in depth, wide ranging intel on organized crime in Pittsburgh/Cleveland/Youngstown from researched sources. FYI- The Lead investigator for the I-Team for channel 5 Boston as well as WPRI Providence confirmed through state police that Whitey's old gang is nothing but addicts and alcoholics. So I guess you're saying that the State Police are racist for saying that...or it's the absolute truth...I'll go with the latter

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